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Re: New Skipper? - PaulP - 02-19-2016
(02-19-2016, 04:49 AM)DJC link Wrote:The only nagging doubt I have is that we took the easy option and perhaps our football followed the same path. The fact that he is captaining Brisbane suggests that he wasn't a lost cause.
He has his faults but I wouldn't mind having him on our list.
Good luck to him.
Pretty much agree.
Re: New Skipper? - Thryleon - 02-19-2016
(02-19-2016, 04:49 AM)DJC link Wrote:The only nagging doubt I have is that we took the easy option and perhaps our football followed the same path. The fact that he is captaining Brisbane suggests that he wasn't a lost cause.
He has his faults but I wouldn't mind having him on our list.
Good luck to him.
Of course, but the age old adage rings true.
What came first the chicken or the egg?
Just like Yarran, there was every chance for it to be the status quo with us. We decided to cut our losses and move on, and frankly given where our list was at, that was possibly a harder decision to make than cutting loose Yarran was given we had well and truly embraced a rebuild by the time we cut ways with Yarran.
Re: New Skipper? - LP - 02-19-2016
(02-19-2016, 05:56 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Of course, but the age old adage rings true.
What came first the chicken or the egg?
Just like Yarran, there was every chance for it to be the status quo with us. We decided to cut our losses and move on, and frankly given where our list was at, that was possibly a harder decision to make than cutting loose Yarran was given we had well and truly embraced a rebuild by the time we cut ways with Yarran.
Would you have Robinson back if he was available for a reasonable price, he's only 26?
Re: New Skipper? - DJC - 02-19-2016
(02-19-2016, 06:04 AM)LP link Wrote:Would you have Robinson back if he was available for a reasonable price, he's only 26?
No.
While I would have preferred to have kept him, there's too much water under the bridge now and I reckon he'd struggle to get a game now.
Re: New Skipper? - Thryleon - 02-19-2016
(02-19-2016, 06:04 AM)LP link Wrote:Would you have Robinson back if he was available for a reasonable price, he's only 26?
Nope moved on and left him behind.
Crippa is the one we should be looking to build around.
Re: New Skipper? - Juddkreuzer - 02-19-2016
(02-19-2016, 06:04 AM)LP link Wrote:Would you have Robinson back if he was available for a reasonable price, he's only 26?
No and I was a big Robbo fan.
You'd expect that his departure wasn't simply based on those off field indiscretions and Malthouse alone. In Juddy's book he is candid in his assessment of our playing list, which I am sure would be reflected by others inside the leadership group.
On his arrival at Carlton
Quote:Some players were not in the least interested in trying to set a course to win a premiership or so it seemed to me. These players were a minority, but it was a big enough minority to be distabilising.
On the start of the 2015 season.
Quote:Our list had been turned over by some 10 or 11 players. Some of those who had left were good guys, dependable teammates and solid citizens who simply weren't capable of playing good enough footy to stay. Brock McLean was one. Others I wasn't so displeased when they were shown the door.
Of course I am speculating, but you couldn't say that Mitch wasn't capable of playing good enough football to stay.
Re: New Skipper? - LP - 02-19-2016
(02-19-2016, 09:58 AM)Juddkreuzer link Wrote:No and I was a big Robbo fan.
You'd expect that his departure wasn't simply based on those off field indiscretions and Malthouse alone. In Juddy's book he is candid in his assessment of our playing list, which I am sure would be reflected by others inside the leadership group.
On his arrival at Carlton
On the start of the 2015 season.
Of course I am speculating, but you couldn't say that Mitch wasn't capable of playing good enough football to stay.
Judd's arrival comments are not related to Robinson, he wasn't there.
I suspect the other comments could easily relate to Bootsma, Lucas, Betts and Garlett. I think the chapter you refer to discusses work ethic at training and doing the right thing to get yourself in shape for game day. Robinson was always regarded as a hard worker on the training track, I am not sure you can put him in the soft trainers basket.
If you had a choice between Daisy in 2017 and Robinson what would you do?
Re: New Skipper? - PaulP - 02-19-2016
(02-19-2016, 06:04 AM)LP link Wrote:Would you have Robinson back if he was available for a reasonable price, he's only 26?
Yes.
Re: New Skipper? - ElwoodBlues1 - 02-19-2016
(02-19-2016, 06:04 AM)LP link Wrote:Would you have Robinson back if he was available for a reasonable price, he's only 26?
No...while he was more aggressive in his attack on the footy than most his skills let him and the team down too often, loved his passion and its hard not to want him back given we are the softest team in the comp but we need a new Robbo with improved skills....
The player I want back is Eddie Betts.....
Re: New Skipper? - Juddkreuzer - 02-19-2016
(02-19-2016, 10:41 AM)LP link Wrote:Judd's arrival comments are not related to Robinson, he wasn't there.
I suspect the other comments could easily relate to Bootsma, Lucas, Betts and Garlett. I think the chapter you refer to discusses work ethic at training and doing the right thing to get yourself in shape for game day. Robinson was always regarded as a hard worker on the training track, I am not sure you can put him in the soft trainers basket.
If you had a choice between Daisy in 2017 and Robinson what would you do?
I included the arrival comments because they highlighted a distabilising culture that already existed. One into which a young and impressionable player could easily fall.
The chapter I refer to suggests that "getting a new contract was far more important than team success for these guys." As I said I was a Robbo fan but I'm not sold on the idea that he was the consummate team player and that is what sealed his fate. His off field behaviour wasn't the catalyst but it sealed the deal.
As for a choice between Robbo and Daisy. Lets just see out Daisy's contract and be done with it. It's a new era.