(06-11-2021, 05:24 AM)Mav link Wrote:So, to sum up: vaccines are dangerous and aren’t the answer but we shouldn’t have lockdowns or restrictions either. Just let it rip because people will be 100% after a while.

Operating businesses is a risk/reward scenario. If you’re unlucky enough to be starting out when a depression hits, you may lose your business. If you’ve started up a burger joint and a Maccas opens up across the road, good luck. In either case, you’re not going to get much of a chop out from government.

I wonder what country people think when owners of regional tourist venues demand that the government let Melburnians travel freely to their towns so their businesses will prosper. I wonder if any residents would prefer to see the infected stay where they are.

(06-11-2021, 05:41 AM)LP link Wrote:And they'll live to tell the tale to their descendants, like so many of their ancestors who survived a war!

I have to wonder if those lonely and isolated might also be some of the most likely to suffer at the hands of Sars-CoV-2, disease tends to work that way.

Much of the commentary surrounding the pain of lockdown is a commentary about human nature, and not directly the effects of lockdown. I will continue to assert, if the dissenters went away, the lockdown would be swifter and more effective, and we might not be in the 3rd or 4th iteration. We do not have far to go to test this, interstate or Auckland will suffice.

I'll give you a nice example.
A small little local discrete private gym, frequented and subscribed to by a fairly affluent set. Many of these people are doctors, medical specialists, politicians, accountants, lawyers, well to dos, many merely inconvenienced by the lockdown. They go here because it's discrete, only a couple of hundred members and they won't run into people they do not want to talk to. For some their income is not diminished, for some they are even turning more profit not operating a mainstream office. But they can't go to gym so they cancel the $6 to $10/week memberships heaping duress on the little gym operator. If the gym survives, when things return to normal, patrons will have to sit in their and listen to them bragging about their favourite under $500 Burgundy, or their next holiday to a private French run Fiji resort, or how servicing costs of the Astin Martin have gone through the roof, if the gym survives. They have the power to maintain the quality of life and financial status of that gym operator, but instead they opt to save their pittance per week and suspend or cancel their memberships, what's in it for them after all they aren't getting their $6 worth! Of course if the gym operator doesn't survive the pandemic, they'll be sprouting soliloquys of such shame and pity, how harsh life can be!                Such is human nature!

(06-11-2021, 06:56 AM)Thryleon date Wrote:The ones that commit suicide wont live to tell the tale, and some of them wont really have a life post lockdown.  A lot of people have gone to the wall because of covid.

(06-11-2021, 06:56 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:The ones that commit suicide wont live to tell the tale, and some of them wont really have a life post lockdown.  A lot of people have gone to the wall because of covid.

(06-11-2021, 06:56 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:False, you are paraphrasing not summarising.

(06-11-2021, 06:56 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:A lot of people have gone to the wall because of covid.

(06-11-2021, 09:30 AM)Mav link Wrote:Either way would be valid. Paraphrasing is restating the meaning of a text or passage using other words (I’m paraphrasing an online dictionary here). So as both are legitimate techniques, feel free to address my post rather than blowing it off.

(06-11-2021, 09:33 AM)Mav link Wrote:Correct. Covid is the culprit. And it has killed a lot of people as well. Let’s make sure we beat it.

(06-11-2021, 07:39 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:Agree, Hardly an ambulance call for actual CoVid cases...however attempted suicide calls and drug OD calls are way up every lockdown. Deaths in those cases wont make the news and wont be included as CoVid casualties.