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Re: JLT game 3 - PaulP - 03-16-2017

Thry, DJC and cookie, I would agree. The problem is that perception sometimes becomes 3/5 of reality, so anyone who knows they're not getting games in the seniors, and sees their social media status, would be tempted to put 2 and 2 together, and draw unfavorable conclusions. Perhaps they could post photos tweets etc. of themselves busting their guts at training, or something similar. If they're not working hard, at least look like they are. 


Re: JLT game 3 - Gointocarlton - 03-16-2017

(03-16-2017, 12:16 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Thry, DJC and cookie, I would agree. The problem is that perception sometimes becomes 3/5 of reality, so anyone who knows they're not getting games in the seniors, and sees their social media status, would be tempted to put 2 and 2 together, and draw unfavorable conclusions. Perhaps they could post photos tweets etc. of themselves busting their guts at training, or something similar. If they're not working hard, at least look like they are.
At least someone gets it. Perception is everything.


Re: JLT game 3 - LP - 03-16-2017

(03-16-2017, 12:22 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:At least someone gets it. Perception is everything.

I said the very same thing in another thread and was shouted down, it is completely feasible that you can fake your way to success.


Re: JLT game 3 - Thryleon - 03-16-2017

(03-16-2017, 12:16 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Thry, DJC and cookie, I would agree. The problem is that perception sometimes becomes 3/5 of reality, so anyone who knows they're not getting games in the seniors, and sees their social media status, would be tempted to put 2 and 2 together, and draw unfavorable conclusions. Perhaps they could post photos tweets etc. of themselves busting their guts at training, or something similar. If they're not working hard, at least look like they are.

Im with you when you say this.  I battle perceptions frequently at work with regards to what people think we do, vs what we actually do.

The root of that is as follows:

The perception is eventually irrelevant provided the right people know what is going on.

These guys can do whatever they like in the social media scene.  In reality, the AFL is very tight knit, and they all know who is doing what when.

That means our club knows who is doing what too.  Including the most important, the coaching staff.


Re: JLT game 3 - spf - 03-16-2017

(03-16-2017, 06:06 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Im with you when you say this.  I battle perceptions frequently at work with regards to what people think we do, vs what we actually do.

Do you actually KNOW what you are meant to do or do you just think you know what you're doing?

Perhaps your perception is that you know what you're doing when in reality others know and you don't. Your perception is your reality, meanwhile everyone else has a differing perception.




Re: JLT game 3 - LP - 03-16-2017

All this perception and reality stuff sounds good in practice, but it didn't save Robinson or Garlett, and both rate far higher as footballers than Jaksch or Graham.


Re: JLT game 3 - Thryleon - 03-16-2017

(03-16-2017, 02:18 PM)spf link Wrote:Do you actually KNOW what you are meant to do or do you just think you know what you're doing?

Perhaps your perception is that you know what you're doing when in reality others know and you don't. Your perception is your reality, meanwhile everyone else has a differing perception.

Yes and no.

Sometimes its unclear but so long as I am following instruction its fine.

Either way, parallel my experience at work with Jaksch when I state the following.

I know, what I do at work.

My boss knows what I do at work.

That is the only part of that equation that matters irrespective of everyone else's perception.

Its why players continue getting picked when fans cannot figure out why (I can think of various examples of this across the journey) and it's why when people look like they are performing well, they get dropped.

Think about those things for a bit, and have a think about why a team that is having a hard time finishing the work in the forward line isn't selecting a bloke that has scored more goals this year for the Northern Blues, than our senior team did in round 2 of the JLT series.

I think everyone's perception of what is going there is irrelevant, and Ill defer to the coach.  Or are we going to think that Bolton has no idea how to get the most of his players??




Re: JLT game 3 - DJC - 03-17-2017

(03-16-2017, 11:34 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:I think everyone's perception of what is going there is irrelevant, and Ill defer to the coach.

A novel idea Thry Wink

Who would have thought that the coach and match committee could know what they are doing?

I'm sure that blokes like Jaksch, Graham, Jones and Boekhorst know exactly what is expected of them but, for whatever reason, they just can't manage it consistently.


Re: JLT game 3 - Gointocarlton - 03-17-2017

(03-17-2017, 01:39 AM)DJC link Wrote:A novel idea Thry Wink

Who would have thought that the coach and match committee could know what they are doing?

I'm sure that blokes like Jaksch, Graham, Jones and Boekhorst know exactly what is expected of them but, for whatever reason, they just can't manage it consistently.
I reckon Jones's problem is different, its similar to Caz in that its btw the ears on game day. He trains the house down from all reports and is much liked by his team mates.


Re: JLT game 3 - LP - 03-17-2017

(03-17-2017, 02:18 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:I reckon Jones's problem is different, its similar to Caz in that its btw the ears on game day. He trains the house down from all reports and is much liked by his team mates.

I think Jones work rate exceeds the other and by some margin, his problem is he just doesn't get enough of the footy.