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Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - LP - 02-16-2021
[member=122]Mav[/member]
What did you think of Michael van der Veen's outburst on TV?
I actually have some sympathy for van der Veen here, in that the basic premise about media commentary is correct, the media do not report they offer heavily opinionated political editorials. Whether it's News Ltd or Bloomberg, they do not start from a neutral position and haven't for a long long time.
However, I can't see him staying Trump's man for long, because if that outburst was sincere he must have awful trouble representing his client! It would be impossible for him to reconcile those comments about truth with his clients rhetoric.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Mav - 02-16-2021
Just bluster. He’s just pushing Trump’s fake news smear. And we know Trump’s okay with the right-wing media as long as it pushes his lies.
The media took a while to understand that it couldn’t repeat misinformation and disinformation uncritically. That reached its nadir when cable news channels broadcast Trump’s rallies live in the lead-up to the 2016 election, allowing Trump to repeat his lies ad nauseum. Psychologists would say that continued exposure to lies predisposes the audience to accept them as true. It was like giving Trump another Twitter, but this one wasn’t limited to 180 characters (or whatever the Twitter limit is) and was in living colour.
The media now calls out lies as lies. Hooray! And the media also cracked down on giving Trump live TV coverage for “rallies” he called under the guise of press conferences or Coronavirus Task Force presentations.
That doesn’t mean the media descends into political editorials by doing so. For those, you need to turn to Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, and Jeannine Pirro.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - DJC - 02-16-2021
(02-14-2021, 11:51 PM)capcom link Wrote:I have quite a few good friends in the United States. It's a 50 / 50 split between Republican and Democrat. That divide will never be broken as the views are unbelievably entrenched.
But if there is a (more or less) common theme amongst them it's this. Get rid of Pelosi.
Pelosi’s approval rating is just above Aurangzeb’s ?
Interestingly, her approval rating jumped from 30% to 38% when she announced the first impeachment and has hovered around and above that mark ever since.
I wonder how much of her disapproval rating is down to failure to effectively counter Aurangzeb?
It surprises me that US politics and public life features so many geriatrics ... not that there’s anything wrong with older folk ?
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Baggers - 02-16-2021
(02-16-2021, 02:47 AM)DJC link Wrote:Pelosi’s approval rating is just above Aurangzeb’s ?
Interestingly, her approval rating jumped from 30% to 38% when she announced the first impeachment and has hovered around and above that mark ever since.
I wonder how much of her disapproval rating is down to failure to effectively counter Aurangzeb?
It surprises me that US politics and public life features so many geriatrics ... not that there’s anything wrong with older folk ?
Comparing the Orange One and Pelosi is a fascinating exercise. I find it hard to come up with a kind word for either. The Orange One is a narcissistic, dishonest, self-aggrandizing bozo. Pelosi I find cold, ineffectual, bitter and somewhat vulturish!
I'd put them together on a deserted island and see what happens. My money is on Pelosi to kill and eat the Orange One.
On a more humanitarian / psychological note (which I prefer)... I see them as damaged in very different ways and shouldn't be let anywhere near public office, though Pelosi is probably more sane than the Orange One.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - LP - 02-16-2021
(02-14-2021, 11:51 PM)capcom date Wrote:I have quite a few good friends in the United States. It's a 50 / 50 split between Republican and Democrat. That divide will never be broken as the views are unbelievably entrenched.Like turkey vs tofurky!
But if there is a (more or less) common theme amongst them it's this. Get rid of Pelosi.
The USA seems inherently misogynous to political active females, it's all a bit old school, is Harris the fuse that lights the cure!
There does seem to be a fundamental problem in US politics, on both sides, I'm not sure what the common cause might be! :
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Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Mav - 02-16-2021
Not sure Pelosi deserves the hatred. I put it down to 2 things: the Republicans have conducted a sustained smear campaign against her (and we’ve seen that works with low information voters and those hermetically sealed inside the right-wing media bubble), and she’s a woman (as LP noted).
Right-wingers love to paint her as a communist but the progressives see her as too centrist. It would be interesting to ask Pelosi haters why they hate her. If they’re honest, they’ll confess it’s because Fox News told them to do so. Or that they don’t like that she’s involved in Satanic sexual assaults on children after which she eats them.
But how do they get worked up over her when her opposite number is Kevin McCarthy and the QOP leader in the Senate is Mitch McConnell? If they don’t like her because she represents Beltway politics, surely she’d pale in comparison to them.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - LP - 02-16-2021
(02-16-2021, 05:30 AM)Mav date Wrote:Or that they don’t like that she’s involved in Satanic sexual assaults on children after which she eats them.Hmm, looking at her I don't think she could eat a whole one! :o
Unless of course she's a Flerken in disguise!
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Baggers - 02-16-2021
(02-16-2021, 05:30 AM)Mav link Wrote:Or that they don’t like that she’s involved in Satanic sexual assaults on children after which she eats them.
) Now that's one helluva line... perhaps some therapy? ) Or maybe you've missed your vocation as a fantasy writer for adults only! ) ) In all seriousness, she does have an image problem and needs people to help soften her appearance. And to learn to whip in a smile/laugh and to turn seeming bitterness into determination for truth. I should have put some emoji on a few of my comments a few posts back. Though I stand by my Orange One comments... I bet he has undiagnosed C-PTSD (Borderline Personality Disorder) and adult ADHD (along with sociopathy, which shares narcissism with BPDs).
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Mav - 02-16-2021
The belief in cannabilistic Satanic child sex rings involving Democrats is a core QAnon belief, incredible as that might seem.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - DJC - 02-16-2021
(02-16-2021, 07:50 AM)Mav link Wrote:The belief in cannabilistic Satanic child sex rings involving Democrats is a core QAnon belief, incredible as that might seem.
A former colleague, a charming English lass of Jamaican heritage, has been sucked right into that QAnon pit. I can’t believe how a relatively normal person (whatever that is) has lost her ability to think critically ?