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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - ElwoodBlues1 - 06-07-2021

https://www.bitchute.com/video/crcXBKSn0fRl/?fbclid=IwAR0z1vDwi1Z4dkYXNefr0PUHWtAKfrrQAHgKRRTvDyW7UXBJjfIu2RFJrgQ

Had this sent to me and its an interesting viewpoint from a very well qualified individual......

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Mav - 06-07-2021

This pops up periodically. Sad to say, some people aren’t like fine wine: they age like milk instead. The best example is Rudy Guiliani: does anyone think of him as America’s Mayor any more?

This guy’s whole section was canned by Pfizer. Who knows whether that made him bitter. The start-up he built up and sold for a big profit ended up being a dry well. The purchaser threw out the research and wrote off the cost.

His former colleagues seem nonplussed by his behaviour and say he isn’t the guy they knew.

THIS ARTICLE  from Reuter’s notes that in the UK’s 1st lockdown he opined ”there is nothing especially virulent or frightening about covid 19 … it’ll all fade away … Just a common & garden virus, to which the world overreacted” & he predicted in a subsequent tweet that it was “unlikely” the death toll in the UK would reach 40,000.

He also suggested the vaccines would make women infertile, which seems to be something that hasn’t aged well.

But if you find him credible, more power to you.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 06-07-2021

(06-07-2021, 07:45 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:2 calls in a day isnt working hard and the job needs a level of competence, we are talking about peoples lives.
The people i know who are doing it couldnt plug a dog and a bone together much less trace the movements of CoVid infection's.
We are playing for keeps not finding work for the unemployed or those wanting some extra bingo money.
We should be using the army, police or private security operators with some expertise in the area of tracing people...
They girls here at work do this from our office at no cost to anybody except our company, we are happy for them to use their free time, and they do the calls when they aren't busy doing their own jobs. It could easily be they only do two calls in a day if they are busy.

btw., You can't assume a tracing call is 5 minutes, our girls have been on the phone for hours sometimes trying to get information out of people who are either deliberately uncooperative to weirdly vague. A call is like an audit!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 06-07-2021

(06-07-2021, 08:22 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:https://www.bitchute.com/video/crcXBKSn0fRl/?fbclid=IwAR0z1vDwi1Z4dkYXNefr0PUHWtAKfrrQAHgKRRTvDyW7UXBJjfIu2RFJrgQ

Had this sent to me and its an interesting viewpoint from a very well qualified individual......
Phew, .................. what a nutjob, has been publicly campaigning against vaccines since 2018, long long before Sars-CoV-2.

Debunking his claims on COVID, for example the official reports state most children can be completely asymptomatic yet have a high virus load and be very infectious, the science has proven the exact opposite of what he claims is the reality. It turns out the intial studies show this India variant is or might be even far worse in this regard.

PCR is only the preliminary test, it's the dogs nose, after a PCR positive infected individuals have a viral load test by a secondary method different from the initial method.

In Oct 2020, Yeadon famously announced to the world that the pandemic is over, he had been stating since April 2020 that it would fade away.

He is sponsored by Robert F. Kennedy Jr, who is America's most famous anti-vaxxer. India, Brazil, Peru, Cuba, Malaysia, all say hello!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - ElwoodBlues1 - 06-07-2021

(06-07-2021, 10:47 AM)LP link Wrote:They girls here at work do this from our office at no cost to anybody except our company, we are happy for them to use their free time, and they do the calls when they aren't busy doing their own jobs. It could easily be they only do two calls in a day if they are busy.

btw., You can't assume a tracing call is 5 minutes, our girls have been on the phone for hours sometimes trying to get information out of people who are either deliberately uncooperative to weirdly vague. A call is like an audit!
The people we know go into an office and sit there for x amount of hours as they have been laid off from their normal work.
They said its very cruisy and they dont do anything, their major gripe is people provide false numbers ...
According to them its very unprofessional and they expected more in the way of help from people with more expertise.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - flyboy77 - 06-07-2021

(06-07-2021, 10:57 AM)LP link Wrote:Phew, .................. what a nutjob, has been publicly campaigning against vaccines since 2018, long long before Sars-CoV-2.

Debunking his claims on COVID, for example the official reports state most children can be completely asymptomatic yet have a high virus load and be very infectious, the science has proven the exact opposite of what he claims is the reality. It turns out the intial studies show this India variant is or might be even far worse in this regard.

PCR is only the preliminary test, it's the dogs nose, after a PCR positive infected individuals have a viral load test by a secondary method different from the initial method.

In Oct 2020, Yeadon famously announced to the world that the pandemic is over, he had been stating since April 2020 that it would fade away.

He is sponsored by Robert F. Kennedy Jr, who is America's most famous anti-vaxxer. India, Brazil, Peru, Cuba, Malaysia, all say hello!

Love the way you make high and mighty statement and never back it up with ANYTHING.

Takes a special skill.

Kids "can be completely asymptomatic yet have a high virus load and be very infectious" from "official reports" (nice little appeal to authority) but alas, as always, BS.

There's quite a lot of on point (the kids' role) science - likely stuff LP doesn't read (as he already knows it all). For example:

1. https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/pediatrics/early/2021/04/14/peds.2021-050182.full.pdf
2. https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/146/2/e2020004879.long?utm_source=TrendMD&utm_medium=TrendMD&utm_campaign=Pediatrics_TrendMD_0
3. https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/147/1/e2020029736?utm_source=TrendMD&utm_medium=TrendMD&utm_campaign=Pediatrics_TrendMD_0

There's plenty more of the same sort of stuff. None of it even remotely supports LP's 'position'.

PCR tests - well at least he's gently resiling from the veracity of the PCR test. i know a few who have caught COVID - none were subsequently tested with another test? Anyone else?

And my favourite - the Indian variant - let's let Mike Yeadon explain about variants....

https://lockdownsceptics.org/how-robust-is-covid-immunity/

Quote:To date, no robust scientific evidence proves that any of the variants identified are more transmissible or deadly than the original.12 By definition, variants are clinically identical. Once there is a clinical difference then a new ‘strain’ of virus has emerged. Prior knowledge of viral mutation shows they usually evolve to become less deadly and more transmissible.13 This optimises their chance of spreading, as dead hosts tend not to spread viruses, and very ill hosts have reduced mobility and thus limit contact with others.14

Or this short piece:

https://lockdownsceptics.org/2021/05/13/boris-confirms-nothing-is-ruled-out-in-responding-to-indian-variant-how-worried-should-we-be/

Look forward to your next bout of gaslighting LP.

You have the full repertoire no question, lacking in execution perhaps....

Meanwhile, over in VAERS territory, deaths have now exceeded 5000.

Noting the level of under reporting/non reporting is massive.

A few simple graphs - nothing to see here. Carry on.



Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 06-07-2021

(06-07-2021, 12:49 PM)flyboy77 date Wrote:A few simple graphs - nothing to see here. Carry on
Credibility is lost @Flyboy77 the moment those pseudo reports start quoting worthless VAERS data.

More and more people now know that like the UK Yellow Card system VAERS is a system of voluntary reporting, anybody can file a report even it seems the dead, insane or a cadre of anti-vaxxers!

Quoting VAERS and using it's data as the basis for an argument is like asking an anti-vaxxer for an unbiased opinion on hypodermics! ;D

It's interesting to to do some research on what asymptomatic and super spreader events really mean, the area of branching maths covers this network phenomenon and it's important to note that the worst case comes from moderate levels of infectivity and transmission. It seems to suggest that at either end of the extreme, very low or very high transmission will result in a disease that dies out, and it relates to the timing of infection. This seems to be common sense, a patient has to be infectious enough to transmit but not so infectious that they are detected very quickly before they can move too far. With adults and children the variation in shedding virus can be significant, several orders of magnitude with the worst being 1,000,000x more shedding than the least. It truly seems the worst case is the moderately infectious spreader who escapes scrutiny for an extended period and continues to move through society.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Mav - 06-07-2021

Are you suggesting anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers would flood a reporting system to push their agenda as they’re doing with Google reviews & the like?
Business blacklisted and hit with scathing reviews over Covid stance, The Age
Can’t have business owners abide by the law now can we?

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 06-07-2021

Yeadon, a hero of the anti-vaxxers, builds many of his claims on a single false premise, which he repeats ad nauseam.

That false premise is that someone with a high enough viral load to be contagious and shed virus as a super spreader would be too sick to work or circulate in society. I believe he has made that claim in all his main videos, of which there are several versions of the same subject, although I have not personally watched all of them to confirm that.

This concept of someone with a high viral load being too sick to spread disease is the base false premise on which nearly all his other spurious claims such as the infamous "fade away of the pandemic" are based.

Melbourne delivery driver says hello! :o

None of his supporters question the allegation that the pandemic lockdown might have cost Yeadon and his team as much as an estimated EU$430M, because the lockdown delayed trials of a drug his group had been involved in inventing, a drug to treat eczema. That delay allegedly resulted in the R&D contract expiring before the drug's benchmarks were reached, benchmarks that would have seen him paid in full. Other commentators claim the trials were already showing failed results, and his product wouldn't have made the benchmark anyway because it's efficacy was poor. Bad luck for him, bad luck for his investors, another failed bet, but this is no reason for him to burn down the house to try and save a scrap of his reputation. I suppose if this is true, he and his consortium can always go and sell his new drug in Brazil, maybe he should sell that to his investors!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Thryleon - 06-08-2021

I just want to point out, that for an extremely infectious virus and pandemic prompting roughly 5 months worth of lockdowns and restrictions to life in Melbourne our virus numbers and threat doesn't quite measure up 1.5 years into this.

Thats not to say that covid isn't a killer, but the reaction may not be commensurate with the threat said virus poses.