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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - shawny - 06-03-2021

(06-02-2021, 11:28 AM)capcom link Wrote:We're saved !!!!

That moron female health idiot in SA has said fans shouldn't touch the ball if it flies over the fence in an upcoming match !!!

FMD.

A mate sent me the link to her saying that. I was certain it was a joke but when looking it further realised it wasn’t.  Utter madness.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - flyboy77 - 06-03-2021

(06-02-2021, 11:10 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Agree the Pfizer isnt the panacea of Vaccines at this stage either.....

https://greatgameindia.com/israel-report-pfizer-vaccine-side-effects/

https://twitter.com/i/status/1398367017258962944

nothing to see here!  :-[  :-[

Meanwhile, another dumb physician for LP to explain how he knows much more than....  :o

https://vimeo.com/490351508

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - ElwoodBlues1 - 06-03-2021

(06-03-2021, 01:08 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:https://greatgameindia.com/israel-report-pfizer-vaccine-side-effects/

https://twitter.com/i/status/1398367017258962944

nothing to see here!  :-[  :-[

Meanwhile, another dumb physician for LP to explain how he knows much more than....  :o

https://vimeo.com/490351508
Watched a video of the the senate committee looking into Covid treatments and Ivermectin was mentioned as achieving positive results overseas and why isnt the TGA looking at it? If I can find the Video I will post it, had a lot of questions on Vaccine safety, legal aspects of the vaccines etc. The Government reps were looking a tad uneasy through it all...

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 06-03-2021

The point missed by Flyboy is that COVID-19 illness is a complex suite of secondary infections and comorbidity caused by the virus Sars-CoV-2. He seems unable or unwilling to understand the difference between the disease and the virus for whatever private reason he holds.

Ivermectin used complementary with other medicines for treating those secondary infections and comorbidities is useful, but it has little usefulness in direct treatment of or as a prophylactic for Sars-CoV-2 virus infections. Compared to the Sars-CoV-2 prophylactic effects of the most basic vaccine, Ivermectin is almost useless, and 10x the price$ for a somewhat weakly effective period of just 4 weeks.

It pays to remember when discussing COVID-19, it's secondary effects and it's comorbidities, for example on the contents of death certificates, that it is a complex disease.

Now for those struggling with this concept. I can simplify it;
Sars-CoV-2 causes an infection which can weaken the immune system. That is like the ring leader breaking through the restaurant or 7/11(aka., your body) front doors(aka., your immune system) that had kept the snacks(aka., you) locked away from it's nefarious mates, like fungi, mould and bacteria, and then when it gets in it leaves the doors wide open and shouts out a "Dinner Time" invite! ;D
I think the next step in this mindless social media efficacy debate, will be naysayers highlighting cases where vaccinated people still got COVID-19 disease or a Sars-CoV-2 infection, and claiming the vaccines do not work because they weren't perfect! Wink

Quote:“We were all kind of forgetting that we’re sitting on the safe, relatively isolated periphery of a roaring global pandemic,” Dr McRae said. “The iconic Australian ‘she’ll be right’ is very, very dangerous.”



Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - shawny - 06-03-2021

Ive hardly posted on this thread but im confused with this latest 'outbreak'

We were told this particular strain spreads at a rapid rate, a rate that we have never experienced before. Then they come out and tell us the sites of exposures from Covid active people is exploding - currently stands at just under 400 sites.

Between 30-50K of law abiding citizens have done what is asked of them and got tested per day since this current lockdown started and as I've tonight's news there is 62 total cases.

So do the math 62 active cases yet there was 400 active sites of exposure of a disease that spreads 'by even walking past someone that has it'!

So we shut down bulk of industry, wear masks inside and out, are locked up in our homes unless we are buying food or medical reason and have to listen to the media tell us daily how things are tracking - with all there usual doom words like  cases are 'spiralling' 'rocketing' early days in the lockdown to now 'exploding exposure sites'. 

Yet only 62 Victoria's have this crazy contagious strain with the first case 10 days ago.

Does something not add up here folks or am I missing something ........

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - kruddler - 06-03-2021

(06-03-2021, 09:17 AM)shawny link Wrote:Ive hardly posted on this thread but im confused with this latest 'outbreak'

We were told this particular strain spreads at a rapid rate, a rate that we have never experienced before. Then they come out and tell us the sites of exposures from Covid active people is exploding - currently stands at just under 400 sites.

Between 30-50K of law abiding citizens have done what is asked of them and got tested per day since this current lockdown started and as I've tonight's news there is 62 total cases.

So do the math 62 active cases yet there was 400 active sites of exposure of a disease that spreads 'by even walking past someone that has it'!

So we shut down bulk of industry, wear masks inside and out, are locked up in our homes unless we are buying food or medical reason and have to listen to the media tell us daily how things are tracking - with all there usual doom words like  cases are 'spiralling' 'rocketing' early days in the lockdown to now 'exploding exposure sites'. 

Yet only 62 Victoria's have this crazy contagious strain with the first case 10 days ago.

Does something not add up here folks or am I missing something ........
Put it in the 'short term pain, long term gain' category.

We acted too slowly last year and spent 6 weeks in lockdown, now we are paranoid and shut down too quick.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 06-03-2021

(06-03-2021, 09:17 AM)shawny date Wrote:Yet only 62 Victoria's have this crazy contagious strain with the first case 10 days ago.

Does something not add up here folks or am I missing something ........
 Yes, the incubation period, which is why the lockdown runs so much longer than the detections.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - flyboy77 - 06-03-2021

(06-03-2021, 01:29 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Watched a video of the the senate committee looking into Covid treatments and Ivermectin was mentioned as achieving positive results overseas and why isnt the TGA looking at it? If I can find the Video I will post it, had a lot of questions on Vaccine safety, legal aspects of the vaccines etc. The Government reps were looking a tad uneasy through it all...

Now LP, if you'd read ANY of the papers I've posted (or watched the videos) you'd learn that you really have zero idea.

But that's ok, I picked you some time back. Learnings aren't necessary for one who knows everything.

The difference between the virus and the (alleged) resultant illness....irrelevant to the effectiveness of Ivermectin.

It can and does stop viral replication and it can also help post the fabled cytokine storm, when punters are on death's door in hospital.

Why isn't the TGA looking at it? Well that's a good question, isn't it.....

Indeed, the potential of Ivermectin to counter CV19 was well known well over a year ago....

http://dx.doi.org/10.13140/RG.2.2.26424.57600/2

And no one is suggesting you use Ivermectin in isolation - again, if you'd bother to read, watch and learn...alas.

Safety?

Safer than houses.

Noting no drug is perfect/ideal in all situations.... https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2008/050742s022lbl.pdf

Yet, if Ivermectin and/or HCQ had been recognised as potentially viable treatments back when - then no EUA would have been possible for the experimental vaccines....

QED.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - capcom - 06-03-2021

Ask Professor Sutton ... who is NOT a professor.  Nothing near it.  Just a "lean on" boy.

Been asked to submit his qualifications.  Won't


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Thryleon - 06-03-2021

(06-03-2021, 09:17 AM)shawny link Wrote:Ive hardly posted on this thread but im confused with this latest 'outbreak'

We were told this particular strain spreads at a rapid rate, a rate that we have never experienced before. Then they come out and tell us the sites of exposures from Covid active people is exploding - currently stands at just under 400 sites.

Between 30-50K of law abiding citizens have done what is asked of them and got tested per day since this current lockdown started and as I've tonight's news there is 62 total cases.

So do the math 62 active cases yet there was 400 active sites of exposure of a disease that spreads 'by even walking past someone that has it'!

So we shut down bulk of industry, wear masks inside and out, are locked up in our homes unless we are buying food or medical reason and have to listen to the media tell us daily how things are tracking - with all there usual doom words like  cases are 'spiralling' 'rocketing' early days in the lockdown to now 'exploding exposure sites'. 

Yet only 62 Victoria's have this crazy contagious strain with the first case 10 days ago.

Does something not add up here folks or am I missing something ........

The thing that had me beat was that the first sign of outbreak with a deadly disease should have been in a healthcare setting.