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Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - PaulP - 01-25-2021
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/biden-s-honeymoon-period-could-be-very-short-20210125-p56won.html
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - DJC - 01-25-2021
(01-25-2021, 04:52 AM)PaulP link Wrote:There's little in Biden's history to suggest he has even a mildly progressive agenda. I'll be watching with interest.
So far he’s making our Scotty from marketing seem like a pillar of the religious right rump
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - PaulP - 01-25-2021
(01-25-2021, 06:04 AM)DJC link Wrote:So far he’s making our Scotty from marketing seem like a pillar of the religious right rump
Yes perhaps, but that's not a great standard.
I listen to Chris Hedges, Richard Wolff and Noam Chomsky as much as I can. Both Hedges and Wolff say there is limited scope for improving the lives of most Americans under Biden. Chomsky seems to believe that Biden is pliable, and with enough pressure from the average American (protests etc.), he can be pushed in a more progressive direction. If this pressure doesn't occur, Chomsky believes he will follow a similar path to the Clintons and Obama (i.e not great).
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - DJC - 01-25-2021
(01-25-2021, 06:24 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Yes perhaps, but that's not a great standard.
I listen to Chris Hedges, Richard Wolff and Noam Chomsky as much as I can. Both Hedges and Wolff say there is limited scope for improving the lives of most Americans under Biden. Chomsky seems to believe that Biden is pliable, and with enough pressure from the average American (protests etc.), he can be pushed in a more progressive direction. If this pressure doesn't occur, Chomsky believes he will follow a similar path to the Clintons and Obama (i.e not great).
I think there's limited scope for any president to improve the lives of most Americans.
The Dems do have flimsy minorities and individual senators and congresspersons will oppose Biden's laws if they think it will cost them their job. Biden also has to manage a very conservative population, both in terms of politics and opposition to change of any sort. It's also a population that thinks Bernie Sanders is a socialist :
Biden is off to a decent start by re-signing up to the Paris accord, re-committing to the WHO, beginning to wind back Aurangzeb's environmental vandalism and taking COVID seriously, but it's going to be a long, slow four years.
I heard an American political commentator state that fixing the problems is not Biden's job, it's the responsibility of the people. If the people don't want change, it won't happen.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - ElwoodBlues1 - 01-25-2021
I think Trump was right about the WHO and its role in the pandemic, slow to react, whitewashed China's slow response to sharing data and also took their time to admit there was a world crisis. On China's demands they ignored Taiwanese Doctors who were blowing the whistle on what was really happening ,of course China is the WHO's second biggest contributor and looking for a big stake in the world of big pharma. Trump might have been playing games to cover up his own failings but the WHO needs an overhaul and the umbelical cord to China cut and Biden should have waited IMO before re-committing to such a dodgy organisation.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - capcom - 01-25-2021
Don't start me on the U.N. >
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - DJC - 01-25-2021
(01-25-2021, 10:08 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:I think Trump was right about the WHO and its role in the pandemic, slow to react, whitewashed China's slow response to sharing data and also took their time to admit there was a world crisis. On China's demands they ignored Taiwanese Doctors who were blowing the whistle on what was really happening ,of course China is the WHO's second biggest contributor and looking for a big stake in the world of big pharma. Trump might have been playing games to cover up his own failings but the WHO needs an overhaul and the umbelical cord to China cut and Biden should have waited IMO before re-committing to such a dodgy organisation.
Aurangzeb pulled out of WHO simply because it wasn’t in step with his agenda and doing so helped fuel his COVID conspiracy theories and cover up his inadequate response.
The WHO might have some problems but I would put my trust in WHO well before Aurangzeb’s administration and the PRC, as well as Brazil and the other unfortunate nations with populist rulers, and Sweden for that matter ?
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - LP - 01-25-2021
There is some irony in those GOP claims that COVID was false or fake news.
Now we know Trump made those claims by using graphs and charts that his team had faked, not the graphs and charts he'd been supplied by the CDC!
All those claims of fake news, ....... it truly does turn out to be the case that the smeller is the fella!
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - ElwoodBlues1 - 01-26-2021
(01-25-2021, 10:59 AM)DJC link Wrote:Aurangzeb pulled out of WHO simply because it wasn’t in step with his agenda and doing so helped fuel his COVID conspiracy theories and cover up his inadequate response.I wouldnt trust any of the above....
The WHO might have some problems but I would put my trust in WHO well before Aurangzeb’s administration and the PRC, as well as Brazil and the other unfortunate nations with populist rulers, and Sweden for that matter ?
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Gointocarlton - 01-26-2021
(01-25-2021, 10:08 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:I think Trump was right about the WHO and its role in the pandemic, slow to react, whitewashed China's slow response to sharing data and also took their time to admit there was a world crisis. On China's demands they ignored Taiwanese Doctors who were blowing the whistle on what was really happening ,of course China is the WHO's second biggest contributor and looking for a big stake in the world of big pharma. Trump might have been playing games to cover up his own failings but the WHO needs an overhaul and the umbelical cord to China cut and Biden should have waited IMO before re-committing to such a dodgy organisation.The world needs to cut the umbilical cord to China. Farken disgrace they are.