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General Discussions - Printable Version +- Carlton Supporters Club (http://new.carltonsc.com) +-- Forum: Social Club (http://new.carltonsc.com/forum-6.html) +--- Forum: Blah-Blah Bar (http://new.carltonsc.com/forum-23.html) +--- Thread: General Discussions (/thread-4803.html) Pages:
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Re: General Discussions - LP - 05-07-2021 (05-07-2021, 02:53 AM)Baggers date Wrote:Yes, but it was really inspired by humanitarianism which was a great passion of his. Circa 1932 Albert could see what was happening in Germany and started a movement, of sorts, to promote humanitarianism as a way to short-circuit growing nationalism & Hitler. After a fair while, he had 3 signatures! He packed his bags and went to the US at the end of the year.He perhaps expressed or actioned some significant philosophical contradictions in his life as well. He's is / was far from a favourite in some circles, something many forgive due to his other achievements. Re: General Discussions - LP - 05-07-2021 (05-07-2021, 02:54 AM)PaulP date Wrote:I'm no fan of the ScoMo take on religion, which unfortunately is very common. I think it's infantile. Progressive Christianity tries to emphasise orthopraxy (what you do) rather than orthodoxy (what you believe). I'm not much interested in whether someone believes in the Virgin Birth, or the physical resurrection of Jesus. I'm interested in what they're doing to make the world a better place.Actions taking precedence over words, in this we are in accord. In regards to Einstein, the matter of the development and use of nuclear weapons is an interesting conundrum. Some refer to it as a race between two evils, not good versus evil. Re: General Discussions - Baggers - 05-07-2021 (05-07-2021, 02:23 AM)LP link Wrote:[member=64]PaulP[/member] Would you say socialism has roots in some very fundamental religious principles? I had the great pleasure of working with Fr Bob many years ago. You are right, he is the very antithesis of Pell. If all Catholic priests were like Fr Bob the world would be a very different place. Such a down to earth, real person who understood spirituality ...deeply. And a very funny bugger too. We jousted often re footy - he's a one-eyed Rottingwood supporter. The Church couldn't wait to retire him off, they tried a few times but the congregation outcry was too loud to ignore. He was a thorn in the Church's side with his constant reminders that the Church should be serving the community... out amongst the community... helping anyone and everyone regardless of social standing. He complained that too often priests were serving the Church, themselves and not the community - good way to be unpopular with the hierarchy. Re: General Discussions - LP - 05-07-2021 Liz Cambage is rallying against the White Wash of the Australian Olympic team promotions. https://www.theage.com.au/sport/basketball/cambage-threatens-tokyo-boycott-over-aoc-s-whitewashed-promo-shoots-20210507-p57prm.html Firstly, some of the reports put this in an indigenous platform, is Cambage indigenous? Secondly, given the photos have 7 and 10 athletes respectively, to keep things proportional we have to have 0.23% of an Indigenous person in the 7 athlete photo, and 0.33% of a Indigenous person in the 10 athlete photo. Or combined 0.56% of an Indigenous athlete across both photos. The use of a whole disabled athlete in both is ridiculously over-representative. Just a few weeks back I listened to a Indigenous activist from Vic Western District argue you are indigenous if we say your indigenous, and skin colour makes no difference. The debate is so full of hypocrisy I can't pretend to be interested anymore. The Cambage article asserts she tweeted that fake tan doesn't cut it, so true skin colour matters! There is a lot of absurdity in this debate from all sides even my own! :o Re: General Discussions - Gointocarlton - 05-07-2021 (05-07-2021, 01:43 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Nothing like politics to polarise folks!Care for Aussies disappeared when Hawk stopped being PM. Howard had a little bit of care, the rest a pension benefit, attention seeking parasites that I wouldn't feed let alone vote for. Re: General Discussions - cookie2 - 05-07-2021 Politics and politicians are mainly about representing and looking after vested interests, and we all know what such vested interests come down to for many people. True altruism is a rare commodity and as Paul Keating quipped, "Never underestimate the power of self-interest". Re: General Discussions - capcom - 05-07-2021 Been a desert since Howard .... they just don't 'effin listen. None of 'em. And why? No moral compass, just a "look at me" attitude Zali Steggall Sam Dastyari Bandt Turnbull I could list them, but the litter tray is in need of a clean Re: General Discussions - DJC - 05-07-2021 (05-07-2021, 03:17 AM)LP link Wrote:Liz Cambage is rallying against the White Wash of the Australian Olympic team promotions. I believe Cambage has Nigerian heritage. Indigenous identity generally requires one to meet three criteria; descent from an Indigenous person, identifying as an Indigenous person and recognition as a member by an Indigenous community. Skin colour isn't a factor and nor should it be when it's more or less a throw of the dice for folk of mixed genetic origin. Re: General Discussions - PaulP - 05-07-2021 Just goes to show the precipitous decline in politics if Howard is now considered an elder statesman. IMO, he did one rally great thing early on, which was the gun control legislation, and that was it. Re: General Discussions - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-07-2021 (05-07-2021, 01:56 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Einstein was in favour of Socialism.Spent a short time working in Russia and some of the breakaway states and a lot of the average folk from the likes of Belarus, Moldova, Estonia etc all wanted to be back in the Soviet Union. So called Freedom isnt much use when nothing works and you are starving, the replacement govts were/are more corrupt than the previous Soviet regimes. Socialism does have its advantages depending where you are in the world. |