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Re: NAB Challenge - Carlton v Hawthorn @ Aurora Stadium - DJC - 02-19-2016

I thought that Kreuzer was particularly harshly treated by the umpires.  He was shepherded out of ruck contests and penalised when he tried to get to the ball.  It seemed to be planned tactic as Hawthorn usually had a third man up to go for the hitout.  He should been paid 3-4 frees rather than having one paid against him.

We should be seeking clarification of the interpretation of ruck contests so that Kreuzer isn't disadvantaged in the real season.


Re: NAB Challenge - Carlton v Hawthorn @ Aurora Stadium - DJC - 02-19-2016

(02-19-2016, 10:07 AM)jeza link Wrote:Throwing a theory out there - what if we didn't use Murphy and Gibbs in the middle any more?

Against decent opposition both go to water and suck the rest of the team down the vortex they leave behind.

Can we shuffle them out to the flanks / wings where they might be All Australian quality? Gibbs off half-back. Murphy as a small forward / wingman.

Hand the midfield to Cripps to lead with rotations between more accountable players like Whiley, Kerridge, Curnow, Plowman, Tutt, etc.?

Murphy and Gibbs are 3 quarters of our problem in my opinion. Too easy to beat. They do not make it hard enough for their opponents, they let the team down with little or no accountability and unless it's all flowing their way are a liability.

The 2 of them are p1ssweak but they have that "best of a bad lot" position on our list so nobody cares.

Leave them out of the midfield plans and we might be able to build something worthwhile.

Throw it out there all you like but I doubt whether Bolton will share your view.  Smile


Re: NAB Challenge - Carlton v Hawthorn @ Aurora Stadium - jeza - 02-19-2016

When the umpires are bending us over - it always seems worse somehow when the commentators are ignoring it.

Dermott (solid gold imbecile that he is) was actively barracking and pointing out yet more free kicks that should have been paid to Hawthorn.

I often mute the tv. Dwayno, BT, Derm... rather listen to Steve Urkel get a colonic irrigation.


Re: NAB Challenge - Carlton v Hawthorn @ Aurora Stadium - PaulP - 02-19-2016

(02-19-2016, 10:15 AM)DJC link Wrote:Throw it out there all you like but I doubt whether Bolton will share your view.  Smile

I think the Murphy / Judd combo was most effective in 2011, when Murph played more outside runner / link man and Judd did more inside work. If we substitute Cripps for Judd.................


Re: NAB Challenge - Carlton v Hawthorn @ Aurora Stadium - thrunthrublu - 02-19-2016

still think we'll beat Richmond round 1


Re: NAB Challenge - Carlton v Hawthorn @ Aurora Stadium - jeza - 02-19-2016

(02-19-2016, 10:15 AM)DJC link Wrote:Throw it out there all you like but I doubt whether Bolton will share your view.  Smile

I agree.... something will have to change eventually though.

These guys have all the talent but just don't have the mentality required.


Re: NAB Challenge - Carlton v Hawthorn @ Aurora Stadium - Gointocarlton - 02-19-2016

(02-19-2016, 10:20 AM)thrunthrublu link Wrote:still think we'll beat Richmond round 1
They just got a 10 goal flogging from Freo, just sayin'


Re: NAB Challenge - Carlton v Hawthorn @ Aurora Stadium - blue4life - 02-19-2016

(02-19-2016, 10:05 AM)Juddkreuzer link Wrote:Hampson took one contested mark in 5 years.

Compare him to Hawkins who is 2 years his senior, has played in a quality side and took a similar time to come of age as a presence.

You're kidding right?
Podsiadly went down early in the 2011 Grand Final and Hawkins played the game of his life, at age 23.
For the record, 19 touches, 15 of them contested, 9 marks and 3 goals 3, 3rd in the Norm Smith behind Bartel and Sellwood.
The biggest problem with Levi is that if he takes a mark outside scoring range Carlton is 50/50 at best to get the next possession, and watching him again last night nothing has changed on that score.
He's a better footballer than Hampson but that wouldn't be hard, Hampson is the worst footballer to ever play 50 games in Navy Blue.


Re: NAB Challenge - Carlton v Hawthorn @ Aurora Stadium - PassIt2Carrots - 02-19-2016

(02-19-2016, 10:34 AM)blue4life link Wrote:You're kidding right?
Podsiadly went down early in the 2011 Grand Final and Hawkins played the game of his life, at age 23.
For the record, 19 touches, 15 of them contested, 9 marks and 3 goals 3, 3rd in the Norm Smith behind Bartel and Sellwood.
The biggest problem with Levi is that if he takes a mark outside scoring range Carlton is 50/50 at best to get the next possession, and watching him again last night nothing has changed on that score.
He's a better footballer than Hampson but that wouldn't be hard, Hampson is the worst footballer to ever play 50 games in Navy Blue.

Errrr......Mark Athorn?


Re: NAB Challenge - Carlton v Hawthorn @ Aurora Stadium - jeza - 02-19-2016

On a more positive note:

Whiley 12 possessions and 3 tackles from 50% game time was the best I've seen from him.

Wright looked like a good get. Nothing spectacular but reminded me a bit of Heath Scotland somehow.

Lamb 10 pos from half a game on a flank was very promising also. 3 marks, a clearance, 2 tackles. Got involved - really good to see.