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Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-13-2024
(07-13-2024, 09:29 AM)Baggers link Wrote:O Hollands and Marchbank shouldn't escape scrutiny.Agree....Ollie is a kid and has an excuse and he is still learning the game and will have to be carried in some games but Marchbank is a liability. Cottrell has come back in very cold and may need a run in the twos to warm him up.
Fogarty wasnt great today either, Motlop should come in and Martin might find himself a surprise selection if he can prove his fitness as we need some spark and cleverness to get some easy goals and give Charlie in particular some more assistance.
Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - laj - 07-13-2024
Two rucks this year won 2 from 7. Could be coincidence but those are the figures.
We not a quick side so we need ever smaller type we can get.
Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - LP - 07-13-2024
(07-13-2024, 09:41 AM)Baggers date Wrote:Two rucks just seem to confuse the issue.The ruck stuff is really just a correlation fans want to blame, it's a simple association to make, our Mids got better service this week, and we've still lost the midfield. We've only broke even in centre clearances yet Pitto and TDK gave 4 or 5 alone, English had none!
The spotlight should be on a few big names who are only playing sporadically at the moment, and the wasteful footy use.
Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - Baggers - 07-13-2024
(07-13-2024, 09:27 AM)LordLucifer link Wrote:Dogs wanted that win from the first bounce & played like their season depended on it, once again our guys just went though the motions in the belief it was going to magically happen.
When things are going our way we look great but when the opposition apply a lot of pressure we wilt. It happened last week and it happened again tonight, the opposition clubs have now worked us out.
I don't think we went through the motions.
The effort was there but we were bereft of ideas/options when confronted by sustained, quick heat for the 2nd week in a row. Plus a few passengers. Fingers crossed that Motlop, Cunners, Carroll, Martin (if he plays)... have good games. And Hewett returns next week.
Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - laj - 07-13-2024
(07-13-2024, 09:48 AM)LP link Wrote:The ruck stuff is really just a correlation fans want to blame, it's a simple association to make, our Mids got better service this week, and we've still lost the midfield. We've only broke even in centre clearances yet Pitto and TDK gave 4 or 5 alone, English had none!It has never been a great success for us for years having 2 rucks.
The spotlight should be on a few big names who are only playing sporadically at the moment, and the wasteful footy use.
Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - LP - 07-13-2024
(07-13-2024, 09:46 AM)laj date Wrote:Two rucks this year won 2 from 7. Could be coincidence but those are the figures.Rnd 5; Lost Saad early, cost us dearly.
Rnd 7; Kicked 15-15 to lose to Handbaggers 18-10.
Rnd 8; Leading late, Walsh let Daicos run through a stoppage unchecked to score the winner.
Rnd 10; Smashed by Sydney with Grundy among the best.
Rnd 18; Lost to Bulldogs, English probably BoG.
The idea we could go with one ruck and compete against a rampant English with Darcy as a backup is somewhat bizarre, so fans think less ruck capacity is a win? Pitto held his own at stoppages but didn't take a single mark which is costly, but he and TDK got 4 of our 13 centre clearances, Bulldogs had 13 centre clearances also, but English got none. If we blame the rucks we are masking the problem.
PS: Just noticed the stats are changing, a few minutes ago we had 13-13 centre clearances a piece, with TDK and Pitto 2 each, now it's all changed and we had 13 to 12, with other players getting credits now. Has anyone noticed this happen before?
Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - tex - 07-13-2024
Hewett in for Pittonet. We’ve missed Hewett a huge amount I have no idea why he’s been dropped
Motlop for Williams if injured
Cunners for Cottrell
Govern for Marchbank if possible.
Sub remains Kennedy
Give Cotters a few weeks in the twos. Same with Martin.
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All is not lost. Luckily we have an OK run home but cannot afford to drop another unexpectedly
Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - Lods - 07-13-2024
The good old mid- season slump is back.
It's been ages. :
Today was a bit different to last week and probably a little more concerning. Last week each side dominated quarters at different times.
This week they were the better side most of the game...even in the first when they kicked a lot of points.
Missed McGovern and Hewett. Cottrell has not come back well and maybe should have a game or two in the VFL. Boyd couldn’t hit the side of a barn today.
Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - laj - 07-13-2024
(07-13-2024, 09:58 AM)LP link Wrote:Rnd 5; Lost Saad early, cost us dearly.Lots of spin there. Been crap for us for years. Never been great with 2 rucks.
Rnd 7; Kicked 15-15 to lose to Handbaggers 18-10.
Rnd 8; Leading late, Walsh let Daicos run through a stoppage unchecked to score the winner.
Rnd 10; Smashed by Sydney with Grundy among the best.
Rnd 18; Lost to Bulldogs, English probably BoG.
The idea we could go with one ruck and compete against a rampant English with Darcy as the backup is somewhat bizarre. Pitto held his own at stoppages but didn't take a single mark which is costly, but he and TDK got 4 of our 13 centre clearances, Bulldogs had 13 centre clearances also but English got none. If we blame the rucks we are masking the problem.
Our strength is our pressure. When it is on no-one beats us. Playing 2 rucks detracts from that. Pitto v Hewitt, who is in the 2nds right now. Hewitt all day long.
Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - LP - 07-13-2024
(07-13-2024, 10:04 AM)Lods date Wrote:Boyd couldn’t hit the side of a barn today.Wasn't alone, from static or uncontested plays we've probably given the Dogs 4 or 5 goals today.