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Re: List Changes towards 2023 - kruddler - 03-06-2023
(03-06-2023, 07:05 AM)DJC link Wrote:Kate Shierlaw's another one.I actually had Shierlaw as one, but then left her out of the side when i was putting it together as i had her behind Harris, Stevens and Courtney Jones as forward.
Some of those were pushed out rather than wanting out but the point's still valid; we've lost some good footballers and some mediocre ones.
I'm sure that I remember AFL clubs nominating players to go to expansion teams back in the day. That would have been a better process than allowing the AFLW expansion clubs to cherrypick.
Re: List Changes towards 2023 - madbluboy - 03-06-2023
The comp has become a joke.
The biggest problem with the AFL is too many Melbourne clubs yet we created a women's comp with the same teams.
Re: List Changes towards 2023 - Lods - 03-06-2023
(03-06-2023, 09:46 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:The comp has become a joke.
The biggest problem with the AFL is too many Melbourne clubs yet we created a women's comp with the same teams.
That's actually a pretty good point.
It's going to create the same problems of relocation and retention that the mens competition experiences.
The problem is there probably needs to be that overall club structure to support the women's comp in these early years rather than esatablishing new entities.
Which teams would miss out.
Re: List Changes towards 2023 - madbluboy - 03-06-2023
North Melbourne, Western Bulldogs, Melbourne, Hawthorn and StKilda.
Re: List Changes towards 2023 - Baggers - 03-06-2023
(03-06-2023, 09:46 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:The comp has become a joke.
The biggest problem with the AFL is too many Melbourne clubs yet we created a women's comp with the same teams.
Agree with Principal LODS, excellent point MBB.
From the get-go the AFL seem to have treated the AFLW as an after thought and really didn't think through the comps development.
With so many clubs talent availability is spread very thin, impacting quality. And as for the idea of extracting (best?) players from established clubs... :
The AFL might argue 'short term pain for long term gain'. Bullshizen. A more gradual introduction of new clubs should have followed the AFL's (flawed) model of simply giving new clubs access to draft priority picks.Perhaps if you're a disadvantaged Melbourne based club you might be forced to consider mergers.
Re: List Changes towards 2023 - LP - 03-06-2023
At the moment, the AFLW players / player managers are playing a game of supply and demand, but to me it doesn't look sustainable and the game's authorities should be switched on to stopping the competition from shooting itself in the foot before it has reached sustainability.
However, to me the Admin look scared, scared of being labelled discriminatory, sexist, homophobic or even misogynist, so they have let the competition run wild like an out of control rich kiddies.
For the slightly more cynical amongst us, you might even be forgiven for now thinking the whole competition is now a pretty shallow attempt to harvest sponsorship dollars and political will from a minority sector. For example, would the redevelopment of our home ground have got the same support and go ahead from local and federal authorities without AFLW / VFLW involvement?
Our club has been proposing this sort of redevelopment for decades, and has been refused year after year and proposal after proposal, those refusals were one of the reasons we ended up at Docklands for so many games. But AFLW and VFLW get involved and it sails through unopposed, call me cynical if you like but the shift in wind direction stands out like balls on a bull!
Re: List Changes towards 2023 - kruddler - 03-07-2023
(03-06-2023, 09:46 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:The comp has become a joke.They've made a rod for their own back with it too. If clubs never got a womens team, so be it.
The biggest problem with the AFL is too many Melbourne clubs yet we created a women's comp with the same teams.
Now they all have, try and take them away and see how that goes!
North Melbourne/Tasmanian Kangaroos will also have issues in the future if the AFLW want to copy the AFL with a dedicated standalone Tassie team...it shafts NM....or at least brings them back to the melbourne pack.
Similarly with Adelaide and the NT.....although i'm not sure if that bond still exists as it did in its inception.
Re: List Changes towards 2023 - Lods - 03-07-2023
It could raise an interesting situation down the track.
I think it's probably a fair bet that there will be no new expansion teams in Victoria.
If anything there may be a reduction of Victorian sides.
There may possibly be expansion sides in other states.
We may have a situation where an AFL team (club) goes to the wall....yet the AFLW side is extremely successful.
Does the AFLW side fold as well?
Re: List Changes towards 2023 - LP - 03-14-2023
Harriet Cordner to Carlton, Nat Plane to the Aints.
Bit sad to see Nat go, as the kids say she was an OG.
Re: List Changes towards 2023 - LP - 03-14-2023
How and why did we miss out on Chiocci again?