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Re: trudeau - DJC - 02-19-2022
(02-19-2022, 03:33 AM)capcom link Wrote:I quoted it ... I didn't participate LP. Look at the US VP. Another dead duck.
So what’s Kamala Harris got to do with Trudeau’s alleged drop in popularity? Is this a “look over there” moment?
Like Trudeau, Harris has only just won an election and has ample time to turn poor opinion polls into another election win. Of course, Canadians are not like the folk south of the border with their rusted on loyalty to Democrats or Republicans and swinging voters are a thing.
Re: trudeau - Lods - 02-19-2022
With these future elections...surely it will boil down to who Putin wants to win.
Re: trudeau - DJC - 02-20-2022
(02-19-2022, 08:59 PM)Lods link Wrote:With these future elections...surely it will boil down to who Putin wants to win.
Don’t forget Xi Jinping Lods; his operatives are hard at work.
Re: trudeau - Thryleon - 02-20-2022
(02-19-2022, 01:51 AM)LP link Wrote:I've contacts in Canada, they tell me the effect of the transport blockade was particularly bad in regional areas, there they basically found empty shelves in supermarkets, no fuel for heating, a shortage of critical medicines.
The media focussed on the impact the blockade had on the commercial world, a shortage of supplies for car makers, etc., and completely ignored the human cost. Just another sign of how sick the media has become.
What alarms me is how quickly things deteriorated, not unlike our great bog roll shortage of 2020, imagine that applying to pretty much everything! :o
The other thing that is alarming is how little disruption is required to send things into a spin, I heard one estimate the road blockade reduce supply by less than 20%, yet still having 80% of what is normally available had a massive impact. But I suppose the tell is in the impact of regional areas. It's not that they all get 20% less universally, the problem is that 80% of people are basically not affected, and 20% might get nothing at all, it is not linear. If you are at the end of the supply chain, bad luck for you!
That happened here too *still is happening* thanks to COVID impacting supply chains, workers, etc, and we didnt cop the case load numbers anywhere near as badly as we could have.
Its very interesting that the blockade is blamed for something that we witnessed here in Aus, with minimal cases by contrast. Couldnt get sliced bread some weeks, rice and pasta vanished from shelves. The blockaded stopped the supply chain... Maybe it did, maybe it didnt. Maybe, there is a lot more to all of it, and people are being manipulated.
I see a lot of comments about Right wing vs Left wing, when the reality is as follows. If you lose your humanity, trying to act in humanities best interests, the answer is you lost when you started.
You will notice I am deliberately not taking a side. The people on here should review what they think should happen to people they dont agree with. This isnt a joke, and I take all of this very seriously. Humanity has no hope, if we cannot act humanely.
Re: trudeau - Mav - 02-20-2022
Anyone who urged a humane response to the BLM protests has a reasonable standing to urge a humane response to dealing with breaches of Covid rules. But those who railed against the BLM protesters and wanted to see a crackdown by the police or were outraged by the police being called out would be a wee bit hypocritical if they took that tack.
This is the reason we like to say the rule of law applies in our country. The alternative is rule by fiat or the whims of those with power. If rules need to be followed by others but they should be flexible when they apply to us, then there's no rule of law. And this also applies to the making of the law too. If only conservatives are allowed to pass laws and right-wingers consider that they are entitled to ignore laws passed by leftwing governments, then we don't have the rule of law. That's a recipe for subjective value judgements and the one-way view of rights: I have the right to do what I want and I also have the right to stop others from doing what they want to do.
As pointed out in the article I posted, Tucker Carlson and the FoxNews crew were quite happy to call for a crackdown on BLM protests and yet they were outraged that the Canadian government would break up the trucker blockade which lasted much longer. Hypoocrisy much?