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Re: Deer in the Headlights - JonHenry - 01-04-2020
(01-04-2020, 03:32 AM)LP link Wrote:And there it is, the right wing shock jock's loop of indifference argument, like a carnival carousel with the brakes broken.
Typical, disputing any idea of actually doing something with a "What could they do?" argument, followed by criticism of all and any who actually try to do something, and then claiming to know all the answers without actually offering any possible solutions! Then, shortly to come, a retrospective complaint about the costs!
Paralysis by indetermination!
ScoMo's bringing in the reserves after the battle is lost and the front line troups are exhausted. What a true bloody British officer he is, scrambling through the ashes and across the dead proclaiming "What hell!"
But not all is wasted, he delivers us a new clear dictionary definition of "Pathetic!"
pathetic
/pəˈθɛtɪk/
adjective
1. See ScoMo
Any chance you can answer the question
Re: Deer in the Headlights - Baggers - 01-04-2020
(01-04-2020, 01:36 AM)JonHenry link Wrote:So he is now responsible for all fires in Australia according to you?
He should simply override state powers.
Imagine if he did that!
Oh and he should also dictate China’s carbon emissions. I can see that working well, telling your biggest customer how to behave.
You might want to think about the ramifications of all those little proposals
JH, old son, sorry mate but you are defending the indefensible. Today Morrison has finally admitted he should do something, (from The Age)...'while the Prime Minister has declared he has heard the clear message that firefighters and communities need more federal help.' What a fckn genius this Morrison must be. Only took two months and how many lives? How much acreage? How much animal devastation? How many homes/properties razed?
One of the prerequisites for effective leadership is vision. And the ability, devoid of political or religious bias, to interpret facts, quickly, and act decisively. Morrison has none of that. As the Spotted One pointed out, Morrison has waited until being screamed at by everyone to act, surmising that he can't make a mistake now, and suddenly arrives at fire locations (for the obligatory photo opportunity) only to be met by howls of, 'stop talking and do something!'. Well, a bona fide leader would have acted immediately upon the arrival this bush fire horror, listened to the experts on the ground and done 'whatever-it-took' to support communities and those combatting the flames and those providing for the displaced. And if that meant pushing the states into a co-operative action with the Federal Govt, then so be it.
What matters most in all of this are the lives, the many lives, at stake which a 'real' leader would have held at priority no. 1 from the get go... not hide behind outdated protocols or ideological beliefs molded by political bias or political survival.
Re: Deer in the Headlights - JonHenry - 01-04-2020
(01-04-2020, 07:01 AM)Baggers link Wrote:JH, old son, sorry mate but you are defending the indefensible. Today Morrison has finally admitted he should do something, (from The Age)...'while the Prime Minister has declared he has heard the clear message that firefighters and communities need more federal help.' What a fckn genius this Morrison must be. Only took two months and how many lives? How much acreage? How much animal devastation? How many homes/properties razed?
One of the prerequisites for effective leadership is vision. And the ability, devoid of political or religious bias, to interpret facts, quickly, and act decisively. Morrison has none of that. As the Spotted One pointed out, Morrison has waited until being screamed at by everyone to act, surmising that he can't make a mistake now, and suddenly arrives at fire locations (for the obligitory photo opportunity) only to be met by howls of, 'top talking and do something!'. Well, a bona fide leader would have acted immediately upon the arrival this bush fire horror, listened to the experts on the ground and done 'whatever-it-took' to support communities and those combatting the flames and those providing for the displaced. And if that meant pushing the states into a co-operative action with the Federal Govt, then so be it.
What matters most in all of this are the lives, the many lives, at stake which a 'real' leader would have held at priority no. 1 from the get go... not hide behind outdated protocols or ideological beliefs molded by political bias or political survival.
So, what did the premiers do?
What did Andrews do?
Is he not responsible for the state?
It’s a one way argument from you blokes regardless of what happens.
Bush fires happen and will be more prevalent as we continue to let fuel loads increase.
Is the federal government responsible for that too?
It can’t be a one way street.
The state governments have to be held responsible for their actions as do local governments.
It is not one persons fault for bush fires that have spread across millions of hectares of Australia
Re: Deer in the Headlights - PaulP - 01-04-2020
These fires are of such magnitude that they cross state boundaries and become a national issue. Even SloMo himself has declared it a "national disaster".
https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/bystander-morrison-smoked-out-on-bushfire-politics-20191213-p53jnj
Re: Deer in the Headlights - PaulP - 01-04-2020
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-04/the-bushfires-of-the-future-are-here-black-swan/11559930
Re: Deer in the Headlights - PaulP - 01-04-2020
Oh what the hell - two more :
http://theconversation.com/australia-needs-a-national-crisis-plan-and-not-just-for-bushfires-128781
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/political-stunt-federal-government-launches-bushfire-inquiry-to-probe-state-policy-20191223-p53mh3.html
Re: Deer in the Headlights - Spanner_smf2_import2 - 01-04-2020
Ok Boomer...
It is and his parties issue that they refuse acknowledge and bluntly scoff at scientific evidence of what is going on around the planet. The sheer volume of political bullshit they peddled when Adelaide had those black outs a few years ago, which by the way had nothing to do with SA power policy, but the fact that the storms had effectively wiped out the infrastructure, was propoganda at it's most disgusting.
He and his right wing cohorts are so far up the arse of the large miners that they are effectively thumbing their noses at the Australian public.
Instead of creating an environment that encourages innovation in the renewables sector they actively peddle propaganda about job losses instead of being world leaders in the upcoming energy revolution.
But you and your mates can keep your head in the sand and pretend it's all just Greenies and the left being extremists.
As I said, Ok Boomer! :
Re: Deer in the Headlights - LP - 01-04-2020
The ScoMo boosters will give him credit for being shamed into late action, many will say too late, others better late than never, but then next month or later in the year he'll announce another multi-billion dollar tunnel to nowhere that nobody wants while refusing to expand the National Aerial Fire Service in any meaningful way!
Economics gone crazy, they are happy for the one off massive spend, but shy away at any sign of recurring expenditure like properly funded fire fighting services or continual ongoing hazard reduction management. It's like one "cheap fix"(cheap meaning only wasting million$ and not requiring ongoing management) that only has a remote and unlikely chance of success is OK, but a real and meaningful ongoing resource commitment that requires annual budgets and management is NBG.
Then they'll pay themselves a 23% rise, "That cannot be reversed because it's now set in law!"!
Re: Deer in the Headlights - DJC - 01-04-2020
It's so easy to fact check stuff these days but the same old garbage keeps getting regurgitated.
A former NSW fire and rescue commissioner, Greg Mullins, wrote this week, “Blaming ‘greenies’ for stopping these important measures is a familiar, populist, but basically untrue claim.”
But what would he know? He is obviously a pinko-green
Now, back to Scotty from marketing!
First of all, four years ago, the National Aerial Firefighting Centre asked the Government for a "national large air-tanker" fleet to confront a growing bushfire threat. The Government, with Scotty at the forefront as Treasurer, rejected the request.
Remember Bill Shorten? He was promising $101 million to set up a national aerial bushfire fighting fleet of aircraft, with up to six large air water tankers and 12 helicopters, and boost the funding for the existing National Aerial Firefighting Centre. The new aerial unit was to include a team of "smokejumpers", or firefighters who would rappel from helicopters armed with chainsaws, hoes and other tools to set up containment lines around fires in remote areas.
I wonder if folk would prefer increased firefighting capacity over tax imputation credits now?
Anyway, back to Scotty from marketing: Of course he deserves a holiday. After all, I believe that Parliament sat for less days this year than any time since the end of the First World War. Cramming the year's business into 45 days or whatever it was must have been really tiring and a nice break on the South Coast would have done wonders. Hang on, the South Coast is on fire so why not p1ss off to Hawaii for a while. Of course, when you get back, don't apologise for your lack of leadership and appalling judgement. Instead use weasel words to blame the folk who are upset with you. That's marketing 101 ... or not.
I could go on but I would be here for ever. Let's just focus on Scotty forcing handshakes on the young pregnant mother who had just lost everything and the exhausted firefighter who had just lost his house. Scotty explained it away as people being upset and that's partly right; they are upset with a government that's in the pocket of Murdoch and the mining industry and with a Prime Minister who couldn't lead ants up a dead dog's arsk!
And don't get me started on his Pentecostalism and its influence on our civil society >
Re: Deer in the Headlights - LP - 01-04-2020
DJC steps up to the plate and BAM, Home Run!