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Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - cookie2 - 07-07-2018
@ Shawny
The "promised land" for us certainly looks as if it could well be on a very distant planet light years away atm, that's for sure.
Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - LP - 07-07-2018
(07-07-2018, 06:55 AM)laj link Wrote:SOS, Weitering and SPS,have no idea of what role they are supposed to perform. I want to know why those 3, who started off so well, are struggling. They've all shown they have talent. As I said to someone else, if the players we drafted the last few years wore red and white I bet they'd all be going very well as most of them have talent. You can only draft good players, up to the coaching staff to develop them. Right now our coaches could turn Dusty into a dud.
SoJ is no Dusty, we haven't derailed his career, he's just not up to it and he's not shown the same ability as others on our list. Not even close!
Chances are good there will be a spill and SoJ will eventually get the chop with his old man resigning in disgust, which will be a pity, dead-set pity, but it's a situation of our own making! The clubs pumped up the lads tyres to leverage his surname, but he's just not that sort of player, I'm afraid if he's regularly getting a game the club is in trouble. I love SoJ's heart, his desire, his footy brain, the fact he bleeds navy blue, but the name doesn't make up for the deficits and opposition teams will keep taking full advantage of his short-comings! I think his best chance was to eventually displace someone like Kennedy, Lang or Ed in the midfield, but he won't learn those tricks playing in the back-pocket! If we chop him, will he try to extend his career elsewhere?
About the others you have a very valid point.
Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - LP - 07-07-2018
(07-07-2018, 06:58 AM)laj link Wrote:Phillips would be best looking at another club. He's shown he can play if he's first ruck mostly rucking on his own. Just no room for 2 rucks in most sides these days.
No club will take him on as a 1st ruck, he's too fragile!
Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - cookie2 - 07-07-2018
(07-07-2018, 07:00 AM)hanwell link Wrote:To all the Harry Haters out there for him having the temerity to have a laugh at the footy, he is an employee!!! The days of yore are gawn people, this is the generation of Free Agency, loyalty is a redundant theory.
So why should supporters be loyal then? If a player is accepting our coin he should be with us 100% and at least try and look interested in us being successful. I might just jump on board with the team that looks to be the best chance for the flag in future, and if they start to falter jump aboard with my next choice. :
Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - Spanner_smf2_import2 - 07-07-2018
We signed Murphy for a further 2 years. Let that sink in people... >
Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - LP - 07-07-2018
(07-07-2018, 07:09 AM)Spanner link Wrote:We signed Murphy for a further 2 years. Let that sink in people... >
If that is all you saw from today's game best close your eyes!
You need to ask why when our captain got put down by the Lions, that is the Carlton captain got put down whoever he was, it was Hodge that picked him up! Love someone or hate them, there are lines you should never cross, and our Carlton players, our captain's team-mates, just keep crossing this line!
A lot of them are marking time, our club is just a stopover on the way somewhere else, anywhere else! Any player who is playing for the club and jumper should not accept those events!
Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - laj - 07-07-2018
(07-07-2018, 07:03 AM)LP link Wrote:SoJ is no Dusty, we haven't derailed his career, he's just not up to it and he's not shown the same ability as others on our list. Not even close!
Chances are good there will be a spill and SoJ will eventually get the chop with his old man resigning in disgust, which will be a pity, dead-set pity, but it's a situation of our own making! The clubs pumped up the lads tyres to leverage his surname, but he's just not that sort of player, I'm afraid if he's regularly getting a game the club is in trouble. I love SoJ's heart, his desire, his footy brain, the fact he bleeds navy blue, but the name doesn't make up for the deficits and opposition teams will keep taking full advantage of his short-comings! I think his best chance was to eventually displace someone like Kennedy, Lang or Ed in the midfield, but he won't learn those tricks playing in the back-pocket! If we chop him, will he try to extend his career elsewhere?
About the others you have a very valid point.
I wasn't comparing him to Dusty, surprised you think I did, just that he has shown quite a bit in his first two years but, like more talented ones such as Weitering and SPS, why have he gone backwards after showing alot in their first years. The only thing I said about Dusty is that we could turn him into a dud if he played for us.
I reckon if all the players we have drafted the last 3 years played in Swans colors most would be flying.
Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - hanwell - 07-07-2018
(07-07-2018, 07:07 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:So why should supporters be loyal then? If a player is accepting our coin he should be with us 100% and at least try and look interested in us being successful. I might just jump on board with the team that looks to be the best chance for the flag in future, and if they start to falter jump aboard with my next choice. :That is exactly what happens in the NFL Cookie! Thats where Free Agency comes from, say no more.....
Mate I've been a loyal supporter since 1970, I understand your grief exactly, but this game of today is all about the coach's job security, it stopped being about us, the supporters, about 15 years ago. So you may as well "jump on board" the next big thing.
Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - laj - 07-07-2018
(07-07-2018, 07:09 AM)Spanner link Wrote:We signed Murphy for a further 2 years. Let that sink in people... >
Who has an issue with that other than yourself.
Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - Lods - 07-07-2018
Just in defence of Harry McKay folks
As sad as I was I remember having a few laughs with friends and family at my Mum's funeral.
Don't take a ten second grab in a three hour telecast to mean anything at all.