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Re: Father's Day ad pulled! - malo - 09-03-2017
(09-03-2017, 08:31 AM)mateinone link Wrote:So I wonder how much more of this if every father said.
Actually we DON'T WANT a Father's Day.
We will encourage our children to not shop for us on this day and ask them to show their respect for us as their 'Special Person' by not spending a cent.
I wonder then how much traction this gets.
I don't celebrate as I have said, but I hear a lot of ads telling consumers to buy dad this gift on Father's Day.
Imagine the next step is a complete boycott of Christmas. Another day that people (kids) are made to feel bad about celebrating that happens to hold up the retail economy.
I still to earlier, those people that want to change this country should move to a country where they don't celebrate the days we do here. I am fairly sure they will not be missed
It's passed now, so all done & dusted...but for me, garbage decision by the FTA TV stations.
Being cynical.....if there is a risk of Fathers (& mothers day) being banned by the Gender PC brigade......gee don't the retailers stand to lose big time !
I wonder who wins in this battle between PC cr@p & retailers profits.
Re: Father's Day ad pulled! - Baggers - 09-04-2017
What a minefield.
The way I read the decision is that due to the dads4kids organisation having dodgy motives, their ad was dumped. Seems to me that this organisation is a fundamentalist christian group/cult that is opportunistically attempting to subtly skew public opinion to fathers and mothers and not father and fathers - a political comment in disguise.
I don't see any PC stuff here, just a pack of extremists with a homophobic agenda (in disguise) being told to FO.
Fathers Day must and will remain, regardless of the sexual orientation of the bloke. Plenty of ripper straight and gay dads about the place and, sadly, there are straight and gay c0ckheads as fathers also.
Re: Father's Day ad pulled! - PaulP - 09-04-2017
great post Baggers. Agree with all that.
Re: Father's Day ad pulled! - Thryleon - 09-04-2017
(09-04-2017, 01:03 AM)Baggers link Wrote:What a minefield.
The way I read the decision is that due to the dads4kids organisation having dodgy motives, their ad was dumped. Seems to me that this organisation is a fundamentalist christian group/cult that is opportunistically attempting to subtly skew public opinion to fathers and mothers and not father and fathers - a political comment in disguise.
I don't see any PC stuff here, just a pack of extremists with a homophobic agenda (in disguise) being told to FO.
Fathers Day must and will remain, regardless of the sexual orientation of the bloke. Plenty of ripper straight and gay dads about the place and, sadly, there are straight and gay c0ckheads as fathers also.
Irrespective of why they did it, odds are the ads being pulled scored more points for the no vote than it did for the yes vote, and had it gone to air, no one would have batted an eyelid.
Other than that, I hope they get this bill passed and we can move on, because if its no this time, it will not dissapear, this debate will rage for the next 100 years until there is a yes vote irrespective of what the public want, which is why personally the people Im most angry about are our government.
Wasting billions on a vote, that is frankly not necessary. Allow them to marry and lets get on with it. Everyone moans about lack of leadership, but fork me did our government have simply run away from this contest.
Re: Father's Day ad pulled! - Inboltswetrust - 09-04-2017
(09-04-2017, 01:03 AM)Baggers link Wrote:What a minefield.
The way I read the decision is that due to the dads4kids organisation having dodgy motives, their ad was dumped. Seems to me that this organisation is a fundamentalist christian group/cult that is opportunistically attempting to subtly skew public opinion to fathers and mothers and not father and fathers - a political comment in disguise.
I don't see any PC stuff here, just a pack of extremists with a homophobic agenda (in disguise) being told to FO.
Fathers Day must and will remain, regardless of the sexual orientation of the bloke. Plenty of ripper straight and gay dads about the place and, sadly, there are straight and gay c0ckheads as fathers also.
I agree. If you are gay. Fine. If you are straight. Fine. Who cares? Does it really matter what sex pref you have as long as you are nice to people and don't cause harm to others.
Re: Father's Day ad pulled! - madbluboy - 09-04-2017
(09-03-2017, 08:06 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Should we consider moving it to a different date?
26 January perhaps?
Re: Father's Day ad pulled! - PaulP - 09-04-2017
(09-04-2017, 01:45 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Irrespective of why they did it, odds are the ads being pulled scored more points for the no vote than it did for the yes vote, and had it gone to air, no one would have batted an eyelid.
Other than that, I hope they get this bill passed and we can move on, because if its no this time, it will not dissapear, this debate will rage for the next 100 years until there is a yes vote irrespective of what the public want, which is why personally the people Im most angry about are our government.
Wasting billions on a vote, that is frankly not necessary. Allow them to marry and lets get on with it. Everyone moans about lack of leadership, but fork me did our government have simply run away from this contest.
yes, agree. Gutless non existent leadership.
Re: Father's Day ad pulled! - cookie2 - 09-04-2017
(09-04-2017, 01:53 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:26 January perhaps?
Possibly. That date may be becoming vacant.
Re: Father's Day ad pulled! - Navy Maven - 09-04-2017
(09-02-2017, 11:09 PM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Thry I was going to say this when the LBGTI Supporters group post was made but feared the backlash by people who took it the wrong way. IMO, creating such a separate group is actually anti logic and creates further division which should simply not exist. Happy for someone to explain why it would not. AFAIC, we are all one people not matter what race, religion, sexual orientation etc. I just dont get why in 2017, people just dont get it. Whats important is peace, love and respect for one another.
As for the fathers day add banning, these PC kents can GAGF as it has gotten beyond the joke.
I get where you guys are coming from, but I think it's too easy to over simplify this.
Firstly, we do already have social groups within the club. We have the Women of Carlton, we have interstate and regional supporter groups, coterie groups etc, so this isn't anything new or particularly exclusive.
Secondly, whether we like to acknowledge it or not, there is still a lot of anti-gay sentiment around the AFL. Whether it be through media articles stating that gay players wouldn't be comfortable to come out publicly, or going to grounds to hear people yell derogatory comments of a homophobic nature (have heard this more times than I'd care to note), it can create an uncomfortable atmosphere for people within the LGBTQI community. I for one am proud that our great club has reached out to supporters that may feel marginalised and created an environment where they feel welcome and safe to support this club like everyone should be able to.
As other posters have mentioned, this isn't an exclusive group either. I already know a number of straight people who have jumped on board as well. Almost everybody these days has a gay friend or family member, and initiatives like this just make it a little bit easier for everyone to celebrate their similarities rather than their differences. At the end of the day, who cares who you love in your personal life, as long as you love the CFC first and foremost
Re: Father's Day ad pulled! - PaulP - 09-04-2017
Very sensible NM. Nice post.