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Re: Road to Rio - madbluboy - 08-11-2016
Found this on an American forum, I've never heard of Peter Norman.
http://www.littlethings.com/real-peter-norman-story/
Re: Road to Rio - sandsmere - 08-11-2016
(08-11-2016, 10:40 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:Found this on an American forum, I've never heard of Peter Norman.
http://www.littlethings.com/real-peter-norman-story/
I remember that happening.
Caused quite a stir at the time.
Re: Road to Rio - Lods - 08-11-2016
(08-11-2016, 10:40 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:Found this on an American forum, I've never heard of Peter Norman.
http://www.littlethings.com/real-peter-norman-story/
You were born too late
;DIt was an altitude mark but it's still the Australian record.
Re: Road to Rio - Bear - 08-12-2016
MBB, pretty sure there is a doco on Peter Norman, made by his nephew... worth watching.
Re: Road to Rio - Gointocarlton - 08-12-2016
So Jarryd Hayne not getting into the Fiji Rugby 7's side has cost him an Olympic Gold medal.
Re: Road to Rio - laj - 08-12-2016
Something must be physically amiss with some of our swimmers. The Campbell sisters and Cam McEvoy with scintillating in relays then got worse. Cam and Bronte gradually got worse as the week has gone on and Cate couldn't go an inch today, 53.24 today, 51.97 on Sunday. On top of that Emily Seebohm couldn't go at all after going in in great form. If it happens to one then you say "so be it" but 4 of them then something is amiss. You don't lose form that sharply in 4-5 days, not 4 of them. There's a few gold medals right there although Kyle Chalmers did win the 100m anyway. Interesting McEvoy withdrew from the 200s and the 4 x 200 relay pretty late. Cost us a medal in the 4 x 200 and I'm sure under normal circumstances could've been very close in the 200m individual. Must be something not right.
Thought we were a living certainly in the women's medley relay but now they'll be lucky to place.
Re: Road to Rio - Gointocarlton - 08-12-2016
(08-12-2016, 04:53 AM)laj link Wrote:Something must be physically amiss with some of our swimmers. The Campbell sisters and Cam McEvoy with scintillating in relays then got worse. Cam and Bronte gradually got worse as the week has gone on and Cate couldn't go an inch today, 53.24 today, 51.97 on Sunday. On top of that Emily Seebohm couldn't go at all after going in in great form. If it happens to one then you say "so be it" but 4 of them then something is amiss. You don't lose form that sharply in 4-5 days, not 4 of them. There's a few gold medals right there although Kyle Chalmers did win the 100m anyway. Interesting McEvoy withdrew from the 200s and the 4 x 200 relay pretty late. Cost us a medal in the 4 x 200 and I'm sure under normal circumstances could've been very close in the 200m individual. Must be something not right.The swimmers are supposedly trained/prepared to the minute, those in charge of that f-ed up big time. The Yanks are talented sure but they have always appeared to have done this aspect better than us. Boils down to $$$, sh!t in = sh!t out.
Thought we were a living certainly in the women's medley relay but now they'll be lucky to place.
Re: Road to Rio - laj - 08-12-2016
(08-12-2016, 05:17 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:The swimmers are supposedly trained/prepared to the minute, those in charge of that f-ed up big time. The Yanks are talented sure but they have always appeared to have done this aspect better than us. Boils down to $$$, crap in = crap out.
No they didn't, they were brilliant no more than 4-5 days ago. 4 swimmers suddenly couldn't go and got slower as the week went on. We have been outstanding at peaking swimmers for years, whether it's been Olympics, World Champs or Commonwealth Games. Our swim coaches are the best anywhere. As an elite coach and qualified Exercise Physiologist 4 swimmers won't drop like that so quickly in a few days. If it was one then, well, crap happens, when it's 4, something's amiss. You don't drop from 47.00, 52.15, and 51.97, on the changeover fly admittedly, to over 48 and in the 53's. Too much of a drop to be normal for so many in just a few days. Don't think that's hard to work out. Be interested when it comes out eventually, if it does.
Re: Road to Rio - Lods - 08-12-2016
McEvoy's apparently crook...has a bug.
Wouldn't be surprised if a few others aren't also a bit off colour.
But it has been a bit underwhelming in terms of expected performance vs actual performance.
On a larger issue though...Do we give our swimmers the best opportunities by having our selection trials so far away (in terms of time) from the actual Games?
The Americans seem to have little trouble reaching that double peak in a short space of time.
Our Track and Field folk also have the selection trials well away from the games but they've been able to sharpen up with races in the northern summer and some have been able to reach late qualifiers to make the team.
(The official line is that he's not ill..he and Campbell didn't handle the pressure...... these are experienced international athletes I find that really hard to believe.)
Quote:McEvoy was also asked the question about sickness and did not deny it.
“Me and Rich (his coach Richard Scarce), we’re going to sit down and pinpoint any areas that had some effect,’’ he said.
“But I don’t want to stand here being the guy rolling off excuses, it was this, it was that, not only because that’s not the type of person I am but I don’t want to take anything away from what Kyle has achieved. I think this is his moment and he should soak it up and he deserves all the recognition he can get.’’
Re: Road to Rio - laj - 08-12-2016
(08-12-2016, 05:31 AM)Lods link Wrote:McEvoy's apparently crook...has a bug.It's worked for us for years with trial in Feb. Actually be harder for the Americans having their trials then holding that for 6 weeks. We get the chance to reload. Our results for our population show that. Peaking 6 months apart from Trials to championships isn't too hard.
Wouldn't be surprised if a few others aren't also a bit off colour.
But it has been a bit underwhelming in terms of expected performance vs actual performance.
On a larger issue though...Do we give our swimmers the best opportunities by having our selection trials so far away (in terms of time) from the actual Games?
The Americans seem to have little trouble reaching that double peak in a short space of time.
Our Track and Field folk also have the selection trials well away from the games but they've been able to sharpen up with races in the northern summer and some have been able to reach late qualifiers to make the team.
(The official line is that he's not ill..he and Campbell didn't handle the pressure...... these are experienced international athletes I find that really hard to believe.)
Be a bug for sure. If they had lost, missed a medal being a little down on time, then the occasion got the better of them. But when 3 swimmers are down over a second over 100m in just a few days then something's amiss. McEvoy went 47.00, Bronte 52.15 and Cate 51.97, admittedly on a changeover fly. In their finals 48.12, and 53's. That's huge and unusual, even if you choked. Generally we are good at peaking our swimmers as the world champs have shown.
I picked Chalmers to win as he was getting stronger every race, McEvoy was looking flatter each race as if each one was taking alot out of him. I'm thinking now there was a good reason why he didn't do the 200m or the 4 x 200 as he wouldn't normally have done well in both of them. Today couldn't even qualify for the 50m final. No chance he would've withdrawn normally as he was a huge chance. I said to my mother today that I was worried about Bronte as similarly she seemed to struggle more and not finish strongly though the heats and semi. Was dying, which is unusual. Seebohm, who's usually as tough as anything and always peak well, can't move an inch and first ever today missed a final. If she hasn't got a bug then i'll be surprised.