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Re: Rd 3: Carlton vs Gold Coast: Pre Game Premonitions - laj - 04-04-2016
(04-04-2016, 02:08 AM)shadesy link Wrote:Think Rowe has been pretty solid first two games, couldnt help bu think yesterday our best 3 defenders are Weitering, Rowe, White...
Just that we have alot of tall blokes in the backline. We need to shrink slightly. Maybe play Rowe forward. Even if he struggles he'll take a man.
Re: Rd 3: Carlton vs Gold Coast: Pre Game Premonitions - LoveNavy - 04-04-2016
(04-04-2016, 09:02 AM)laj link Wrote:Just that we have alot of tall blokes in the backline. We need to shrink slightly. Maybe play Rowe forward. Even if he struggles he'll take a man.
Agree laj, that's not a bad play.
Limitations aside, Rowe (from what I've seen) mostly digs in contest after contest to the best of his abilities.
He's certainly done a tough apprenticeship against the leagues power forwards. Just maybe he could turn that into a strength although he'd need to polish his marking up a bit after focusing on spoiling. Tell him to spoil in a small forwards favour or mark the pill. On the odd occasion he's been steady in front of goals and kicked true. Taking the heat off Levi alone may be worth a try. Because the Bolt's got his goal kicking mojo back, right :
Re: Rd 3: Carlton vs Gold Coast: Pre Game Premonitions - DJC - 04-04-2016
(04-04-2016, 09:02 AM)laj link Wrote:Just that we have alot of tall blokes in the backline. We need to shrink slightly. Maybe play Rowe forward. Even if he struggles he'll take a man.
Yet Docherty finds himself standing Buddy?
I didn't see the game but the radio commentators spoke about Sydney's talls stretching our defence.
Re: Rd 3: Carlton vs Gold Coast: Pre Game Premonitions - Barbs - 04-04-2016
(04-04-2016, 11:58 AM)DJC link Wrote:Yet Docherty finds himself standing Buddy?This has happened far too much in the first two rounds. Our back line structure is a shambles where the talls all seem to push too far up the ground and get caught guarding space rather than playing tight man on man defence on the most dangerous opposition forwards. When the opposition move it quickly forward they all get lost in the transition and Simpson, Docherty and Tuohy get left trying to stop someone with a big height and size advantage. Richmond exploited it in the last quarter and always had someone staying deep and Sydney were able to take advantage after their midfield got on top after quarter time.
I didn't see the game but the radio commentators spoke about Sydney's talls stretching our defence.
I think this creates a huge problem for accountability - because none of our tall defenders have a direct opponent a lot of the time and are instead guarding space up the ground. I think the lack of midfield pressure against the swans stems from a similar problem. When we didn't have the ball everyone switched to defending zones rather than putting pressure on the opposition ball carrier or manning up his options. The gold coast did this pretty well against freo and the dogs seem to be the masters of it in 2016. Unfortunately they're our next 2 games.
Re: Rd 3: Carlton vs Gold Coast: Pre Game Premonitions - BluePhantom - 04-04-2016
(04-04-2016, 12:26 PM)Barbs link Wrote:This has happened far too much in the first two rounds. Our back line structure is a shambles where the talls all seem to push too far up the ground and get caught guarding space rather than playing tight man on man defence on the most dangerous opposition forwards. When the opposition move it quickly forward they all get lost in the transition and Simpson, Docherty and Tuohy get left trying to stop someone with a big height and size advantage. Richmond exploited it in the last quarter and always had someone staying deep and Sydney were able to take advantage after their midfield got on top after quarter time.And Thomas on Buddy? :o
I think this creates a huge problem for accountability - because none of our tall defenders have a direct opponent a lot of the time and are instead guarding space up the ground. I think the lack of midfield pressure against the swans stems from a similar problem. When we didn't have the ball everyone switched to defending zones rather than putting pressure on the opposition ball carrier or manning up his options. The gold coast did this pretty well against freo and the dogs seem to be the masters of it in 2016. Unfortunately they're our next 2 games.
Re: Rd 3: Carlton vs Gold Coast: Pre Game Premonitions - shadesy - 04-05-2016
(04-04-2016, 09:02 AM)laj link Wrote:Just that we have alot of tall blokes in the backline. We need to shrink slightly. Maybe play Rowe forward. Even if he struggles he'll take a man.
Noticed I only said 3 tall defenders there...
Re: Rd 3: Carlton vs Gold Coast: Pre Game Premonitions - shadesy - 04-05-2016
(04-04-2016, 06:01 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Disagree,
Just entirely unacceptable when blokes like Gibbs and Everitt go AWOL as and when they seemingly see fit....
Gibbs especially.
What happened to the effort shown against the Tigers?
I think that is unfair...90% of the team put in all day. They came out hard after half time, and fought right to the very end in Junk time, where Malthouse teams would have been blown out by 100+
It was hard work turning the ball over at half forward every time and getting smashed at the stoppages. Effort and competitiveness was there, class was not and it didnt help that our "midfield" leaders didnt want to crack in and were fumbly.
Re: Rd 3: Carlton vs Gold Coast: Pre Game Premonitions - BluePhantom - 04-05-2016
Weitering and Curnow up forward this week with Plowman to come into the back line.
Let the young boys show us how to kick goals.
Re: Rd 3: Carlton vs Gold Coast: Pre Game Premonitions - Pratty - 04-05-2016
We're too tall and slow at the minute IMO.
Out - Phillips and White
In - Walker and Byrne
Backs - Jamison, Weitering, Rowe
Forwards - Casboult, C.Curnow, Walker, Everitt
Ruck - Kreuzer (back from Everitt and Casboult)
Might still be too slow down back but with Weiters and Docherty sliding off and intercepting (both had 4 on the weekend) and with Jamo and Rowe 'locking down' on the likes of Lynch and Day we might get some better structure - maybe! Long term it will hopefully be Weitering, Plowman and Glass-McCasker down back.
Up forward - Casboult to play more CHF but also drifting inside forward 50- when required. Not just a lock-in FF as such. Onball at times and taking some grabs across half-back with he and MK would eb handy!
The more mobile set-up of tallish types in Charlie Curnow, Walker, Everitt and Cripps (when resting) is more appealing.
Everitt to go onball and 'ruck' as a more mobile free-wheeling and extra onballer.
Re: Rd 3: Carlton vs Gold Coast: Pre Game Premonitions - LordLucifer - 04-05-2016
(04-03-2016, 11:14 AM)crashlander link Wrote:I would be bringing Casey Byrne in and play Zac Tuohy more up the ground.
I am becoming more and more interested in seeing Tuohy played as a permanent half-forward. The reasons are many but not limited to :
1. he can kick long goals
2. he tends to get a little 'lost' whilst in defence
3. he will put some immense pressure on the opposition defenders to regain possession
4. he tackles hard & courageously
5. we always seem to have a surplus of half-backs
6. goal-kicking is our Achilles heel right now