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Re: Leaders; Bolton's view - ElwoodBlues1 - 08-24-2017
Reckon Docherty will probably get the captains role if the club wants to relieve Murphy of the job...Cripps can get injured a bit and Weitering is still establishing his credentials as a complete player IMO and maybe doesnt need the burden.
Docherty would be very player neutral I reckon...respected by both young and old on the list, well spoken and is super consistent with his own game.
Not the supreme leader that say Hodge is in terms of leading the troops into battle by performing heroics but smart enough to lead the way by doing most things right when required and of a more calming educated nature...
Re: Leaders; Bolton's view - madbluboy - 08-24-2017
Give it to Docherty till Weitering is ready.
Re: Leaders; Bolton's view - Gointocarlton - 08-24-2017
Murph will be captain again but those that know and count know best.
Re: Leaders; Bolton's view - Milhanna13 - 08-25-2017
(08-24-2017, 03:25 AM)LP link Wrote:I'd be surprised, that is almost as external comment as we would make, populist media rubbish perhaps? Friends with an agenda?
From what I hear indirectly, Murphy's leadership, communication and co-ordination skills are so far ahead of the next option it's a real problem for the club, some say he could well be a future AFL coach if he so desires. Not sure what to make of that, suggests our recruiting team needs to consider the prospects of leadership as a skill.
Of the recent recruits, Cripps included, only Weitering comes close to Murphy. Cripps has quite a unique focus, drive and commitment that might actually alienate players who cannot keep up with him. Some say he is very similar to Judd and has the same pitfalls.
Weitering is more inclusive off-field while having white line fever on-field(Even though it isn't always showing!), he is likened to Kernahan.
Thanks for the insight LP!! First time I had heard it put this way - always good to hear from anyone with an insiders view
Re: Leaders; Bolton's view - kruddler - 08-25-2017
(08-24-2017, 03:25 AM)LP link Wrote:I'd be surprised, that is almost as external comment as we would make, populist media rubbish perhaps? Friends with an agenda?
From what I hear indirectly, Murphy's leadership, communication and co-ordination skills are so far ahead of the next option it's a real problem for the club, some say he could well be a future AFL coach if he so desires. Not sure what to make of that, suggests our recruiting team needs to consider the prospects of leadership as a skill.
Of the recent recruits, Cripps included, only Weitering comes close to Murphy. Cripps has quite a unique focus, drive and commitment that might actually alienate players who cannot keep up with him. Some say he is very similar to Judd and has the same pitfalls.
Weitering is more inclusive off-field while having white line fever on-field(Even though it isn't always showing!), he is likened to Kernahan.
Pretty sure they started recruiting with leadership as a key focus a few years ago.
I reckon there was 1 draft where we picked up 3 players who were former captains of their clubs.
Re: Leaders; Bolton's view - chalkybill - 08-25-2017
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Give it to Docherty till Weitering is ready.
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NOT WEITERING! He is quick to go down AND stay down! A bit of a hypochondriac I think. I want a robust leader!
Re: Leaders; Bolton's view - LP - 08-25-2017
(08-25-2017, 12:38 PM)chalkybill link Wrote:NOT WEITERING! He is quick to go down AND stay down! A bit of a hypochondriac I think. I want a robust leader!
I think that is very harsh on a kid in his second season, you judge his actions on assumptions you draw about his injuries.
Great Article about Carlton, Murphy and our Future;
States this about Weiters this year;
Quote:'Weiters' started up forward and then went down back. It was a real selfless role for Weiters. We were trying to find an avenue to goal so we put him up forward – he had trained all pre-season in the backline.
Re: Leaders; Bolton's view - chalkybill - 08-25-2017
(08-25-2017, 12:44 PM)LP link Wrote:I think that is very harsh on a kid in his second season, you judge his actions on assumptions you draw about his injuries.I have noted him going to ground several times and showing great pain while the game is going on around him only to get up in a little while and then continue play. It is not courage or he would be up straight away knowing his team-mates need him.
Great Article about Carlton, Murphy and our Future;
States this about Weiters this year;
Re: Leaders; Bolton's view - DJC - 08-25-2017
(08-25-2017, 12:55 PM)chalkybill link Wrote:I have noted him going to ground several times and showing great pain while the game is going on around him only to get up in a little while and then continue play. It is not courage or he would be up straight away knowing his team-mates need him.
That's because his shoulder is stuffed and he probably shouldn't be playing at all. I guess he believes that his team mates need him or he would have pulled the pin on the season and gone in for surgery.
Re: Leaders; Bolton's view - chalkybill - 08-26-2017
(08-25-2017, 01:26 PM)DJC link Wrote:That's because his shoulder is stuffed and he probably shouldn't be playing at all. I guess he believes that his team mates need him or he would have pulled the pin on the season and gone in for surgery.
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