(06-01-2021, 11:58 PM)LP link Wrote:No the officials wouldn't report COVID deaths using the same spin, that is your deliberate personal choice to publish a private perspective which clouds the reporting and not a reality of the statistics. I think what you did there either by accident or design is called muddying the waters!

The numbers are clear, unambiguous and definitive, many of the published opinions of them not so much! :o

(06-02-2021, 12:16 AM)Thryleon date Wrote:No the skeptics would, and the official reported covid deaths in analysis might be a little bit each way.

There is no harm in allowing people to point out the hypocrisy when one point is argued for or against in either circumstance.

the numbers regarding cause of death are never clear, unambiguous and definitive.

(06-02-2021, 12:16 AM)Thryleon date Wrote:You know what a huge tell is?  Our case numbers are rising, we have seen a nursing home resident test positive and yet she was asymptomatic at age 90.

(06-01-2021, 09:54 PM)LP link Wrote:That because they are fake, a image published by anti-vaxxer on FB or Instagram as shown by the URL.

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FBCDN.net = FaceBook Content Delivery Network

There are not and were not 210 deaths "Caused by getting the vaccines", no authority has published that or posted it.

The were 210 people who died sometime after getting a vaccination, but that poster is like saying there are 210 people who died after eating breakfast. It's not a causal relationship, it's correlation.

(06-02-2021, 01:06 AM)kruddler date Wrote:The image was on Facebook, but I went to the link on the pic and found the same numbers.

I'm not making an opinion either way, but I saw that pic, checked it out, came to this thread and you guys seems to be saying the same thing, so I linked it here.

(06-02-2021, 01:28 AM)LP link Wrote:The official TGA link does not "seem to be saying the same thing", the official TGA website has the same numbers but says the exact opposite of what the image tries to assert.

I can't comment on what website you viewed, you may have been looking at something spoofed to support the lying image!

(06-02-2021, 01:45 AM)kruddler date Wrote:I viewed the tga website, that's it.

(06-02-2021, 12:24 AM)LP link Wrote:There is no hypocrisy because the debate questioning the validity of the official public health plan is based on fake numbers and news stripped off FaceBook. The image above is a fraud, a lie perpetrated on the public by anti-vaxxers!

I wouldn't call millions of deaths globally, unambiguous, lacking clarity or without determinism! I also think specific investigations into a couple of hundred local deaths is quite definitive, and not something that can be trivially dismissed to suit a political perspective.
What is "the tell", can you explain what the link is between being asymptomatic and being an age? Personally, I don't see any good reason why a person cannot be asymptomatic at age 2 or age 120, it's just luck of the draw or perhaps luck of the genetics!

(06-02-2021, 02:21 AM)Thryleon date Wrote:There is hypocrisies.

Anecdotally, the vaccine deaths are correlation not causation and the covid deaths are causation not correlation.

(06-02-2021, 02:07 AM)LP link Wrote:There is nowhere on the TGA website that states there were COVID Vaccine Deaths = 210

The TGA website is neither ambiguous or misleading, the assertion it reports 210 deaths resulting from COVID vaccination is simply wrong.