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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-30-2021

A staffer at a nursing home in Melbournes West now with CoVid and no link to the other cases, its getting out of control slowly and
I cant see the lockdown lifted for a while. Winter has been a bad time for other countries and its looking that way in Melbourne which is the CoVid capital of Australia. Read this morning although the contact tracing has improved in Victoria it still isnt as good as NSW, why is that after all the grief we had previously?, the Victorian system should be the best given it should have had extra resources, training etc provided.



Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Gointocarlton - 05-30-2021

(05-30-2021, 03:06 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:A staffer at a nursing home in Melbournes West now with CoVid and no link to the other cases, its getting out of control slowly and
I cant see the lockdown lifted for a while. Winter has been a bad time for other countries and its looking that way in Melbourne which is the CoVid capital of Australia. Read this morning although the contact tracing has improved in Victoria it still isnt as good as NSW, why is that after all the grief we had previously?, the Victorian system should be the best given it should have had extra resources, training etc provided.
EB it has to be linked to another case, they just haven't made the link yet.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-30-2021

(05-30-2021, 03:07 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:EB it has to be linked to another case, they just haven't made the link yet.
GTC, I get it has to come from somewhere but clearly there is going to be a time gap on this one which means it will spread further. I liked the bit too that said staff at the nursing home will now wear full PPE gear??..... er  shouldnt they have been wearing full PPE gear anyway in a home with previous cases last time.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 05-30-2021

(05-30-2021, 03:22 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:GTC, I get it has to come from somewhere but clearly there is going to be a time gap on this one which means it will spread further. I liked the bit too that said staff at the nursing home will now wear full PPE gear??..... er  shouldnt they have been wearing full PPE gear anyway in a home with previous cases last time.
How the residents of the aged care homes weren't mostly vaccinated months ago is a disgrace!

They've been left to the will of the Scotty's God of Happy Clappers!


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - capcom - 05-30-2021

So much for a "closed circuit" 7 day shutdown.  Absolutely stooged again, for the fourth time.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Mav - 05-30-2021

I’d love to see the initial spreaders prosecuted. Fair chance they’d drunk the right-wing Kool-Aid and believed Covid Is no worse than the flu and they’d do the community a favour by spreading it so we can reach herd immunity. How else do you explain that this small number of people travelled around Melbourne more than a tourist would? And a 60 and 70 year old failed to seek any testing or treatment for 12 days only to see the 70 year old end up in ICU on a ventilator. Neither of them were vaccinated despite being eligible for months. Has all the hallmarks of a IDGAF about anybody else mentality.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - DJC - 05-30-2021

(05-30-2021, 03:06 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:A staffer at a nursing home in Melbournes West now with CoVid and no link to the other cases, its getting out of control slowly and
I cant see the lockdown lifted for a while. Winter has been a bad time for other countries and its looking that way in Melbourne which is the CoVid capital of Australia. Read this morning although the contact tracing has improved in Victoria it still isnt as good as NSW, why is that after all the grief we had previously?, the Victorian system should be the best given it should have had extra resources, training etc provided.

I heard an epidemiologist on the wireless this morning stating that the system was well on top of the outbreak, ie the source of all cases is or will be known shortly and most new cases have already been isolating.  He could see no reason to extend the lockdown.

I hope he's right  :-\


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - flyboy77 - 05-30-2021

(05-30-2021, 02:20 AM)LP link Wrote:Meta analysis is analysing data from trials previously completed, some of the trials forming part of the analysis were completed almost a decade before COVID-19.

All the of the trials used at least one other drug like doxycycline or azithromycin in conjunction with ivermectin, a cocktail of pharmaceuticals, they don't know why they worked or what they worked on because the meta analysis required no analysis of secondary infections.

No specific direct treatment or prophylaxis of SARS-CoV-2 virus was demonstrated, the papers are analysis the survival of illness post COVID-19 illness, but many trials do not differentiate mild illness versus severe illness, they are just lumped into the same category.

Really these studies repeatedly demonstrate just how serious COVID-19 is and why vaccination is so important. If you get a SARS-CoV-2 infection and develop COVID-19 you are at great risk of becoming very ill from secondary infections requiring a suite of pharmaceuticals to assist, there is no silver bullet to make you better.

SARS-CoV-2 is the virus, ............... COVID-19 is the disease that SARS-CoV-2 causes........ COVID-19 is a complex set of symptoms and infections.

Thanks for letting me know what a meta analysis is...

You know far more than all these experts. Right, how silly of me, of course you do.

Quote:The first finding was that ivermectin substantially reduces death amongst hospitalised patients with mild, moderate or severe covid-19. Six randomised controlled trials (RCTs) were included and the pooled estimate of reduction in the risk of death was 83% (95% CI 67-92%). “We don’t know what the precise estimate is, but even if it is on the lower estimate or even half as good it is still a substantial reduction in deaths”, say Dr Lawrie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTTqKSYHOM8&t=105s

Do you just make stuff up? That's problematic.

Do you work for one of the pharma companies? That would make sense.

https://ivmmeta.com/

Meanwhile, back in the real world, and in Oz, 210 deaths are potentially attributable to the vaccines rollout.

Quote:To 23 May 2021, 3.6 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines have been given in Australia. In this period, the TGA has received 210 reports of deaths following immunisation – 109 have been reported for the Pfizer vaccine, 94 for the AstraZeneca vaccine and seven where the vaccine was not specified. Most of these reports (93%) were for people 65 years of age and over, and over three quarters were 75 years of age and over.

https://www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-27-05-2021







Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Gointocarlton - 05-30-2021

So some silly scrag at a protest yesterday was shown on the news breathing heavily on people. She was arrested (I think) by police, turns out she's an aged care worker. What farken hope have we got?


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - madbluboy - 05-30-2021

(05-30-2021, 09:00 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:So some silly scrag at a protest yesterday was shown on the news breathing heavily on people. She was arrested (I think) by police, turns out she's an aged care worker. What farken hope have we got?

Who was she breathing on?