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Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - PaulP - 01-20-2021
(01-20-2021, 11:06 PM)capcom link Wrote:Hilary called on all democrats and the public to never accept the result of the vote in 2020.
Trump asks obvious questions? Sore loser. Pathetic
Where did she say that ?
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - capcom - 01-20-2021
(01-20-2021, 11:43 PM)PaulP link Wrote:Where did she say that ?
(01-20-2021, 11:43 PM)PaulP link Wrote:Where did she say that ?
Paul. Here.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/hillary-clinton-says-biden-should-not-concede-2020-election-under-n1238156
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - PaulP - 01-21-2021
(01-20-2021, 11:53 PM)capcom link Wrote:Paul. Here.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/hillary-clinton-says-biden-should-not-concede-2020-election-under-n1238156
Hmm. I've read that three times, and I don't see any reference to not accepting voting results. To my eyes, she is urging Biden to not concede until all votes are counted, and to take up the fight with manpower, legal processes and the way Biden comports himself, all in response to baseless claims and bully boy tactics.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - DJC - 01-21-2021
(01-21-2021, 12:24 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Hmm. I've read that three times, and I don't see any reference to not accepting voting results. To my eyes, she is urging Biden to not concede until all votes are counted, and to take up the fight with manpower, legal processes and the way Biden comports himself, all in response to baseless claims and bully boy tactics.
That's the way I read it too. Interestingly, Aurangzeb did pretty much as Clinton predicted ... not that you'd have to be a genius to foresee that :
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - DJC - 01-21-2021
(01-20-2021, 11:13 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:They didn't want him until he beat them all, now he's finished they don't need him.
I think that it's more that they want to get on and have a clear shot at the next election. That's not going to happen if he is making noises about standing again.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - LP - 01-21-2021
(01-20-2021, 10:12 PM)Thryleon date Wrote:Nothing surer LP. If Kamala Harris takes office during Biden's regime, the Republicans will win the next election easily.I doubt that will be true, the GOP allegedly tried to make it hard for African and Hispanic Americans to have a influential vote this time around and failed dismally.
I suspect if Harris is running for President it'll be ten times worse for the GOP next election. I see the GOP as representing the old ways and to me they are currently kicking and screaming against being led to their own inevitable extinction! I think it's a big mistake to think Trump is their man, and after this election I suspect he'll get a real taste of politics.
I realise some from the GOP side will claim this was a people's movement, but actually that ignores what is happening on the other side of politics which is equally active and in fact more active which can't be denied. At the moment the news media and social media chose to profit from the GOP side, as it's more radical and aggression makes better ratings, but the news and social media got a taste of what happens when the GOP radicals are set free to target them incited at the hands of a nutter, and they were left shaken! The GOP won't get that support next time, and they won't trust Trump or a Trump type not to go down that path again!
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - LP - 01-21-2021
(01-21-2021, 12:24 AM)PaulP date Wrote:Hmm. I've read that three times, and I don't see any reference to not accepting voting results. To my eyes, she is urging Biden to not concede until all votes are counted, and to take up the fight with manpower, legal processes and the way Biden comports himself, all in response to baseless claims and bully boy tactics.You are missing the Trump interpretation / translation. ;D
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Thryleon - 01-21-2021
(01-20-2021, 11:43 PM)PaulP link Wrote:Where did she say that ?
“Joe Biden should not concede under any circumstances, because I think this is going to drag out, and eventually I do believe he will win if we don't give an inch, and if we are as focused and relentless as the other side is,”
So, can we infer that she is inciting him not to concede under any circumstance because he will win if they dont give an inch?
Or are we going to change what she said because we only infer meaning into comments from the other?
I merely point these things out because I see people deciding to infer in one case, and taking the literal meaning in the other.
(yes I have written that disclaimer deliberately because if we apply the same inference to these words as we do Trump we should arrive at the same conclusion, yet somehow, we don't and I have no issue with what either stated).
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - LP - 01-21-2021
It's a lexical point, but "should not concede" is far from and not the same as "never accept the result of the vote ........ ".
The first is a quote, .................. I think the second is what British media describe as a verbal! ;D
A concession happens during counting not after it, after counting if you lose you are a loser, always was and always will be. You can't concede after you've lost, doing so is almost the dictionary definition of vacuous.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - capcom - 01-21-2021
(01-21-2021, 12:24 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Hmm. I've read that three times, and I don't see any reference to not accepting voting results. To my eyes, she is urging Biden to not concede until all votes are counted, and to take up the fight with manpower, legal processes and the way Biden comports himself, all in response to baseless claims and bully boy tactics.
Perhaps she misspoke. Anyway, Biden is in for one tough ride, exactly as he should be