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Re: Election 2022 (Poll added) - Lods - 05-24-2022
No problem with flags.
Have as many as you like.
For avid vexillologists such as myself, the only issue is that they're displayed correctly...and they were.
It was immediately noticeable though...and that did represent a point of difference.
Albo's hit the ground running and we're off on a bit of a ride.
His major problem may be curtailing some of the enthusiasm of his colleagues in making some significant changes in a short time period.
One of the things that's always struck me is that a new Labor Government always represents a time of change, where a conservative government tends to adopt a more steady as you go (boring) approach.
Labor Governments are always a more enjoyable and interesting show.
The big issue for the Liberal party is a decision to shift to the right or left.
They're kind of in limbo at the moment.
Do they go after the drifting UAP/One Nation vote or do they look to cut into the strong Independent vote.
Some may think that moving either way is a seismic shift, but the facts of the matter are that it will be largely determined by only a handful of Liberal MP's
The make-up of the new Parliament is essentially settled.
We're yet to see where those remaining Lib's thinking lands...right or left (centre-right)?
It looks like the initial opposition leader will be Dutton.
While in the long term that probably represents a move right (and probably a bad long-term move for that party) he remains the strongest of the candidates.
He's a head kicker who in the short term will challenge the Albanese government.
Whether he's the leader at the next election will largely depend on his electability as seen by his colleagues.
That's when we may see a shift to a more moderate leader
That's how quickly this party can change.
We saw that in the shift from Abbott to Turnbull to Morrison.
But it's troubling and turbulent times ahead for the conservatives.
We often tend to look at these situations after elections and see a party in turmoil.
It seems that sections of their base has largely deserted them, and the prospect of a quick return to government is very unlikely.
We won't know the significance of this loss for a year or two.
It may be years in the wilderness.
A poor performing Albanese government economically may see them back in the race.
One of the interesting aspects I'm picking up from a lot of the Liberals (and Liberal supporters) after this election is that they'd rather see Labor with a clear majority than a hung parliament.
There's probably some degree of anger at the damage the independents have inflicted, but it's also a preference that the contests remain a two-party contest...and the rise of the independents is snuffed out.
I'm wondering whether Labor folk would see it the same in a similar position.
You probably won't hear it expressed as it's worked in their favour at this election.
This election clearly showed from the failure of both parties, in terms of their primary vote, that folks didn't really find either side inspiring.
Re: Election 2022 (Poll added) - LP - 05-24-2022
(05-24-2022, 01:25 AM)Thryleon date Wrote:............. but to laud the incumbent for executing a change, when there are Aboriginal and Torres Straight Island flags on every government building around the country is absolutely not making any real difference aside from optics.So a minute after a flag appears you're seem to be bagging them for not making a real difference! :o
In any case, I'm not sure anybody is lauding anyone at this stage, but that is yet another contrast that exists whether it's superficial or not!
Re: Election 2022 (Poll added) - Mav - 05-24-2022
While they're implementing "insubstantial changes", they should move Australia Day to a day that everyone can celebrate. As Thryleon says, it's not as though that change really matters, so there should be no objections.
Re: Election 2022 (Poll added) - kruddler - 05-24-2022
So.....the 'new guy' is no good because some flags made their way into view behind the podium.
Nobody is against those flags.
Nobody is complaining about the time, cost and backlash of those flags being moved.
In fact, there is no logical reason for suggesting its a negative in any meaningful way.
Yet....somehow....he is 'no good' because of it?
Do you ever get the feeling that you've had a lobotomy in your sleep because your brain can't compute how something like this is an issue? :
Re: Election 2022 (Poll added) - kruddler - 05-24-2022
Talk about too close to call.
and every vote counts etc
Preference count - Deakin
Liberal Party
Michael Sukkar(MP) MP Vote:50.0%
41,320
Labor Party
Matt Gregg Vote:50.0%
41,246
Michael Sukkar leads by 74 votes.
76.2% of votes counted.
Re: Election 2022 (Poll added) - LP - 05-24-2022
There are no winners in politics, you are just biding your time until you eventually lose!
Re: Election 2022 (Poll added) - LP - 05-24-2022
You have to give it to Murdoch's Hun, they are persistent.
Today they are pretty much re-running articles predicting a downfall of Labour, in the past it was the downfall of Federal Labour due to the fallout from State Labour, now it's State Labour shooting itself in the foot causing it's own downfall.
They are a bit like Caro, continually re-running the same tweaked story until at some stage in the distant future if becomes close enough to some event that you can claim it was a prediction!
Re: Election 2022 (Poll added) - madbluboy - 05-24-2022
(05-24-2022, 04:48 AM)Mav link Wrote:While they're implementing "insubstantial changes", they should move Australia Day to a day that everyone can celebrate. As Thryleon says, it's not as though that change really matters, so there should be no objections.
I object. My birthday is on the 25th.
Re: Election 2022 (Poll added) - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-24-2022
(05-24-2022, 05:35 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Talk about too close to call.Met him at Laburnum station many years ago when he was a newbie wannabe, felt like taking a wash when I got to work.
and every vote counts etc
Preference count - Deakin
Liberal Party
Michael Sukkar(MP) MP Vote:50.0%
41,320
Labor Party
Matt Gregg Vote:50.0%
41,246
Michael Sukkar leads by 74 votes.
76.2% of votes counted.
A very slippery smooth customer with charm who markets himself well, he will be wanting three recounts if he loses...
Re: Election 2022 (Poll added) - Mav - 05-24-2022
(05-24-2022, 06:07 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:I object. My birthday is on the 25th.Moving it to 25 Jan would suit everybody then!