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Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn - townsendcalling - 04-29-2019
(04-29-2019, 02:53 AM)IvanAwfulbigone link Wrote:True. I'm really torn on this. He's probably my favourite player but we just can't rely on him. At what stage do you call it and weigh up whether being on the list is a hindrance or a help? Is there such a thing as too much loyalty?
The other key regarding Kreuzer is that he is the ultimate warrior but he just doesn't play well injured. He's not worth carrying for the sake of having him on the park.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn - Professer E - 04-29-2019
We need to learn how to win games based upon multiple contributors (=team effort) as opposed to relying on individual superhuman efforts. The second "methodology" isn't sustainable.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn - Mantis - 04-29-2019
(04-29-2019, 03:17 AM)Professer E link Wrote:We need to learn how to win games based upon multiple contributors (=team effort) as opposed to relying on individual superhuman efforts. The second "methodology" isn't sustainable.
The team effort across the entire group got us so far in front to lead the game. Almost faultless by entire team. Hence proof that this list could work very well for us.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn - LP - 04-29-2019
A good example of how things will change with time is that intercept mark on Walsh.
I think a senior player tried to spot him up in the corridor, I want to say Jones or Weitering. A lot of fans bagged the kick, but while Walsh did attack the footy he only really went at it 80%, which allowed the Dawks to get a spoil in. That won't happen again this season to Walsh, it's a learning moment!
Waiting for the footy in AFL is a no no, yet when you watch AFL kids play it's the most common way they bring themselves undone.
Bagging the kick is easy, but kicks aren't 100% perfect ever, and it was in the good zone. But Walsh only need 1m more on that opponent and he takes an uncontested mark, In fact the opponent might not have even tried to make a spoil out of fear of being penalised 50m!
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn - capcom - 04-29-2019
That's the beauty of Walsh. You'd only need to tell him once. Very "old school" in that regard.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn - cookie2 - 04-29-2019
(04-29-2019, 03:40 AM)capcom link Wrote:That's the beauty of Walsh. You'd only need to tell him once. Very "old school" in that regard.
Great to see such a young guy with such qualities - gladdens the heart of an old bloke.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn - BluePhantom - 04-29-2019
Will Notre Dame be rebuilt before we finish our rebuild? :o
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn - Jeffy38 - 04-29-2019
O’meara 26 possies at 53% at half time. Blues up by 36 points. But yep should have tagged him.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn - PaulP - 04-29-2019
(04-29-2019, 03:52 AM)Jeffy38 link Wrote:O’meara 26 possies at 53% at half time. Blues up by 36 points. But yep should have tagged him.
Shh....Jeffy, keep it to yourself. Word about is that the coaches don't know what they're doing. The fix is in my friend. We need a real coach, one that can overcome the Carlton Coach Killer Vortex™.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn - IvanAwfulbigone - 04-29-2019
The thing that kills me with these types of games is the narrative that can be written around them. There have been bigger comebacks in bigger games so, from Hawthorn's perpective, it would be asking for trouble to make more of it than is deserved. Clarkson pitched his post-match perfectly by downplayng it, just a little - after all, it was only Carlton. He didn't need to use these words and that's what eats away at me. It has been the sub-text now for nearly 20 years. "Only Carlton" :
Flip the game on it's head and I know I'd be comparing it to the Rumble in the Jungle. One world weary protoganist with not only undeniable talent and skill, but also supremely confident with an innate sense of self-belief. Aaaaand in the other corner is ... Carlton. They "roped-a-doped" us, sat back and watched, midly bemused, as we landed only enough blows to shake them from their lethargy. We can sting but we can't kill. This is the narrative that has to change.