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Re: 2018 Rd 17: Post Game whatever : Carlton vs Hawthorn - kruddler - 07-25-2018
Hang on Raydan, you've come in like a whirlwind as your avatar suggests and misread the room.
I'm not writing anyone off yet. Just pointing out that plenty have question marks.
Sheer %'s tell you that they won't all make it. That's the point of the above.
Some won't make it and if they don't, i've listed a reason as to why that might be the case.
Re: 2018 Rd 17: Post Game whatever : Carlton vs Hawthorn - Thryleon - 07-25-2018
Of sos draftees the ones that I have locked in to be 100-200 game players are:
Williamson
Fisher
Dow
Curnow
Weitering
sps
The rest might or might not get there, but they have the tools and the opportunity to get there with polson being my only question mark.
Reminder: look at our list. This is a fairly good strike rate from three drafts.
Re: 2018 Rd 17: Post Game whatever : Carlton vs Hawthorn - kruddler - 07-25-2018
(07-25-2018, 09:54 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Of sos draftees the ones that I have locked in to be 100-200 game players are:
Williamson
Fisher
Dow
Curnow
Weitering
sps
The rest might or might not get there, but they have the tools and the opportunity to get there with polson being my only question mark.
Reminder: look at our list. This is a fairly good strike rate from three drafts.
At this stage yes.
Look at any list and look at the past 2 years, and everyone drafted is still on it, they have to be.
3 years? Only the truly awful are cut in that time.
Most clubs have most players from the past 3 years still on their list, so its not unusual.
History tells you though, that a 100% strikerate is simply not possible. Thus, some won't make it. There's a multitude of reasons why. Too many to give an exhaustive list on.
I'd agree with anyone that is certainly looks promising. But it doesn't matter how many happy pills I, or anyone, happen to pop, there will be a downside and some won't cut it as AFL footballers. If i'm perceived to be 'negative' for suggesting that, so be it. But revisit this in another few years and i bet my balls that some of those 15 players are no longer on our list.
Re: 2018 Rd 17: Post Game whatever : Carlton vs Hawthorn - Thryleon - 07-25-2018
(07-25-2018, 10:26 AM)kruddler link Wrote:At this stage yes.
Look at any list and look at the past 2 years, and everyone drafted is still on it, they have to be.
3 years? Only the truly awful are cut in that time.
Most clubs have most players from the past 3 years still on their list, so its not unusual.
History tells you though, that a 100% strikerate is simply not possible. Thus, some won't make it. There's a multitude of reasons why. Too many to give an exhaustive list on.
I'd agree with anyone that is certainly looks promising. But it doesn't matter how many happy pills I, or anyone, happen to pop, there will be a downside and some won't cut it as AFL footballers. If i'm perceived to be 'negative' for suggesting that, so be it. But revisit this in another few years and i bet my balls that some of those 15 players are no longer on our list.
I think you misunderstood.
When I said look at our list, I meant in regards to previous draftees.
Of our previous draftees not many looked like being 100+ gamers. We've hit at least six in the last three drafts.
Re: 2018 Rd 17: Post Game whatever : Carlton vs Hawthorn - kruddler - 07-25-2018
(07-25-2018, 10:36 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:I think you misunderstood.
When I said look at our list, I meant in regards to previous draftees.
Of our previous draftees not many looked like being 100+ gamers. We've hit at least six in the last three drafts.
...and go back and look at those same 'previous' drafts only a year or 2 after they occured, and all of those players were 100+ game players too.
We thought we'd never have to draft a KPP again after we got Watson, Mitchell and McCarthy in the same draft! :-[
Re: 2018 Rd 17: Post Game whatever : Carlton vs Hawthorn - Thryleon - 07-25-2018
(07-25-2018, 10:38 AM)kruddler link Wrote:...and go back and look at those same 'previous' drafts only a year or 2 after they occured, and all of those players were 100+ game players too.
We thought we'd never have to draft a KPP again after we got Watson, Mitchell and McCarthy in the same draft! :-[
Nope. I disagree. only our number one draft picks looked like 100+ gamers (and Mitch) the rest were all question marks and when we traded Kennedy I wasn't sold on him. Hampson was never convincing. Our rookies looked good but our draftees....
I thought Lucas would make it, but I was wrong.
The rest... Hampson, rohan Kerr, Watson, vjojo rainbow, Temay, Marcus davies, McCarthy, Mitchell.... None of them showed even half the requisite ability to be an afl player.
Re: 2018 Rd 17: Post Game whatever : Carlton vs Hawthorn - kruddler - 07-25-2018
(07-25-2018, 10:50 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Nope. I disagree. only our number one draft picks looked like 100+ gamers (and Mitch) the rest were all question marks and when we traded Kennedy I wasn't sold on him. Hampson was never convincing. Our rookies looked good but our draftees....
I thought Lucas would make it, but I was wrong.
The rest... Hampson, rohan Kerr, Watson, vjojo rainbow, Temay, Marcus davies, McCarthy, Mitchell.... None of them showed even half the requisite ability to be an afl player.
Thats your opinion, and it differs from mine.
Kennedy, IMO, showed more than a lot of the blokes we have now.
Going back through the archives, i'm sure you'll find plenty of people extremely positive about most, if not all of those names.
Re: 2018 Rd 17: Post Game whatever : Carlton vs Hawthorn - Professer E - 07-25-2018
Temay....caused dismay when drafted. Never looked like making it. Awful pick.
We've had more hits than normally credited with: for example
Robinson, Holman, Gowers were later picks who can play.... Just not with us. All 100 gamers (or should be).
Russell, Yarran and Grigg hundred gamers. One a premiership player.
Of the misses:
Bootsma. Never had attitude to make it, failed the no d!ckheads test. Badly compromised draft year.
I thought Dale looked OK, lovely kick. Perhaps too lightly framed.
Left footed half back from SA with booming kick could play but foot injuries stuffed him, ditto MacCarthy. MacCarthy looked as good as good as Scharenberg early on before injury.
Re: 2018 Rd 17: Post Game whatever : Carlton vs Hawthorn - Thryleon - 07-25-2018
(07-25-2018, 10:56 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Thats your opinion, and it differs from mine.
Kennedy, IMO, showed more than a lot of the blokes we have now.
Going back through the archives, i'm sure you'll find plenty of people extremely positive about most, if not all of those names.
Hand on your heart. How many of our previous draftees look like they belong?
I was selective with the names I wrote.
I picked the blokes who look like they belong.
Not guys like o brien and Cunningham who have the tools but there are questions over.
Re: 2018 Rd 17: Post Game whatever : Carlton vs Hawthorn - northernblue - 07-25-2018
(07-25-2018, 10:38 AM)kruddler link Wrote:We thought we'd never have to draft a KPP again after we got Watson, Mitchell and McCarthy in the same draft! :-[
Mmmm... pass me the baby oil... ????