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Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Mav - 12-17-2020
Amazing: Trump supporters were betting big on Trump to win even after the vote count was swinging towards Biden:
Quote:Late that night, Fox News called Arizona for Biden, and Nevada started looking good for him, too. Overnight, new batches of mail ballots made Biden the clear favorite in Wisconsin and Michigan and suggested he was on a good pace in Pennsylvania. By the morning, Biden was a heavy favorite all over the market. And by 2:30 p.m. Eastern on Thursday, two days after the vote, Biden was -1100 and Trump was +575 at Bovada.How Offshore Oddsmakers Made a Killing off Gullible Trump Supporters, Slate. Click HERE
Through it all, Morrow said a huge majority of the money bet at his site remained on Trump—including “3- or 4-to-1” on Trump after the election.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - LP - 12-17-2020
Stupid is as stupid does!
I heard a radio commentary that claimed a bunch of GOP Senators or other high profile movers and shakers are rallying against the vaccinations, on the basis that there are some potential deadly side-effects for some. While COVID is just a cold I suppose, .......... except for some! :
FYI, in the USA the COVID Death rate is hovering around 1.8%, 310K deaths from 17M cases, the serious long term effects(months to forever) of COVID cases hovers around 10%. This can range from rheumatic / arthritic effects, diminished smell, impaired vision or impaired hearing to heart or lung damage and even quadriplegia.
So far it's too early to tell, but the vaccination death rate is so far smaller than 0.01%, the long term side effect of specific COVID vaccines obviously cannot be determined yet as it is too early, but vaccines typically result in long term side-effect complications in 0.1% of cases, about the same as developing a food allergy.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Mav - 12-18-2020
Can’t imagine there’s much sympathy for the losing bettors. Trump would be outraged, of course. He’d be thinking that the bookies have stolen money from him as that money should have gone into his fraudulent legal defence fund. And of course Sidney Powell and Alex Jones wouldn’t be happy as that means less money for them. But let’s think of the poor prosperity pastors. How are they going to maintain their lavish lifestyles when their flocks have already been shorn?
It’s like watching predators fighting amongst themselves to gorge on an animal that one has brought down.
Ordinarily, you’d feel sorry for people being shamelessly ripped off. But unlike prey animals, these people run to the predators and feel good about being eaten. They are part of a movement dedicated to destroying democracy and enshrining minority rule. They aren’t innocent victims - they’re part of the problem.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - LP - 12-18-2020
(12-18-2020, 12:33 AM)Mav date Wrote:They aren’t innocent victims - they’re part of the problem.A Christmas thought? ;D
I think their prejudice diminishes our sympathy, but I suppose they are no less victims, be it difficult to think of them that way. You just know if you offer them a hand in sympathy they'll bite it, it's that grievance addiction again, all their troubles and all the troubles of the world are somebody else's fault!
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Mav - 12-18-2020
Let’s face it, those idiots who bet on Trump despite the odds being way too skinny and those who contributed to Trump’s “legal defence fund” almost certainly signed on to Trump’s campaign to brand Covid as a Democratic hoax. They’d be the types to confront people wearing masks, yell at them and cough on their faces. It’s a two-fer: attacking democracy and spreading Covid.
Do I have even a bit of sympathy for them? Hell no! The world will be better off if their financial losses and disillusionment drives them to check out. Unfortunately, it’s more likely they’ll be driven to violence against truly innocent people.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Thryleon - 12-18-2020
I have a different perspective.
I understand why Trump won. Its unthinkable, but it fires a rocket into the political hemisphere and sounds a very loud warning.
"You imbeciles in your ivory towers are so disconnected from the very people you claim to have in your best interests, that they dont believe in you or your system anymore."
Electing Trump sends a very strong signal to everyone. Improve, be better or else. We would back in the worst candidate ever in front of you career politicians.
Its a very strong stance for the American people to take, and I believe one period of him as POTUS is hopefully enough to cause the waves it requires.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Mav - 12-18-2020
If that was the aim, then they should have repudiated Mitch McConnell and ideologically inflexible congressional candidates. But McConnell has prospered by producing congressional gridlock. I don’t see how irrational toddler-like tantrums thrown by voters are going to have any positive effect.
I think Trump’s main appeal was to white supremacists. He did his best to turn back the clock to a whiter time. For that type of voter, improving their financial position was always a secondary concern. Entrenching their social superiority was worth more than money. If there were blue collar types who were stupid enough to think Trump would boost their finances, they would have been sorely disappointed. Why the hell would a so-called billionaire care about them? Instead, he gave the rich a tax cut and he and his family and friends made out like bandits.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - LP - 12-18-2020
(12-18-2020, 03:20 AM)Mav date Wrote:I think Trump’s main appeal was to white supremacists.But he's the least racist person in the room! :o
btw., How clever is that, that is his genius, the more you highlight that contradiction the better it is for him!
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Lods - 12-18-2020
It has to be a bit more complex than that.
There cant be 70+ million white supremacists in the US.
What Thry said has some merit.
In a speech Biden made on election night, when he all but claimed victory, it was very clear that the 'politicians' had won back control.
The Republicans are like a leaky sieve at the moment.
They're just trying to hold some semblance of unity until after the Georgia Senate election.
Then that unity will collapse and all efforts will be turned to putting the Trump era behind them.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Mav - 12-18-2020
Why would the GOP suddenly become more reasonable? Trump has shown them they can succeed by playing to the Trump base. The more extreme they behave, the more seats they win and the more they raise funds. The majority of their congressmen signed on to the ridiculous Texas suit in the Supreme Court and few Republicans have called out the election fraud conspiracy theories.
Remember, this comes a decade after the Tea Party dominated the GOP. Now we have QAnon believers in Congress.
If the public was trying to send a message by electing Trump, they should have sent an explanatory memorandum to ensure the GOP didn’t misinterpret the message.