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Re: JLT 2018: Carlton vs St Kilda at Ikon on Wednesday - PaulP - 02-28-2018
(02-28-2018, 08:53 PM)Lods link Wrote:.....Because he's done it before
http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/1/carl-v-rich
Is he down on form and confidence?
His last month of last season was pretty solid after a down period during the middle part of the year.
There is no doubt he should play back.
That's where he's at his best.
But if the argument is that there is no place for him in defence due to "team balance" there then he's more than capable of playing forward.
Bottom line is.... he plays
That was his best game for the season, and he went down hill after that. I just think he is being mucked around with too much - it's like, when all else fails, call in Weeters. I'd like to see him regain his 2016 form, and I'm not sure using him as the Mr Fix it is a great way to do it. He got a little better in the last few weeks of 2017, but still far from his best IMO.
Re: JLT 2018: Carlton vs St Kilda at Ikon on Wednesday - Lods - 02-28-2018
(02-28-2018, 09:06 PM)PaulP link Wrote:That was his best game for the season, and he went down hill after that. I just think he is being mucked around with too much - it's like, when all else fails, call in Weeters. I'd like to see him regain his 2016 form, and I'm not sure using him as the Mr Fix it is a great way to do it. He got a little better in the last few weeks of 2017, but still far from his best IMO.
He copped an injury in that game.
I suspect he played injured for a lot of the season but towards the end he was starting to regain his form.
He was amongst our best in the Swans game at the end of the year.
Re: JLT 2018: Carlton vs St Kilda at Ikon on Wednesday - LP - 02-28-2018
It won't be Weitering that is struggling to get a spot, but there were some others on show last night that would be in the gun.
St Kilda had a relatively weak forward setup and we could have used Weitering to shut them down fully.
On the upside;
Pickett has showed glimpses of that X-Factor.
Garlett is a cracker if he stays injury free.
Dow is a special.
Cripps is heading to another level, looked like he was the most effective tall forward as well.
Good to see Byrne gain some confidence.
Jones looked to be just warming up to last years form.
Murphy won't get anywhere near as much focus as he has suffered in the past.
Kennedy did well for a first game as well.
Re: JLT 2018: Carlton vs St Kilda at Ikon on Wednesday - laj - 02-28-2018
No idea of Weitering's form. He hasn't played. Not sure how anyone can judge that yes. Out last night with a slight neck issue.
Re: JLT 2018: Carlton vs St Kilda at Ikon on Wednesday - sandsmere - 02-28-2018
(02-28-2018, 08:59 PM)Bear link Wrote:Weitering is a major concern, can’t be selected because of team balance, should be traded & has mental issues?
Cr@p!!
He didn't play because of an injury. Nothing to do with team balance.
Traded ??? Don't hold your breath, it won't happen.
Mental issues ?? Please explain.
Re: JLT 2018: Carlton vs St Kilda at Ikon on Wednesday - cookie2 - 02-28-2018
(02-28-2018, 09:47 PM)sandsmere link Wrote:Cr@p!!
He didn't play because of an injury. Nothing to do with team balance.
Traded ??? Don't hold your breath, it won't happen.
Mental issues ?? Please explain.
Yes, Weitering is pure talent and will play when available, even if he goes forward (which I'm not really a fan of) or plays a swingman type role.
Re: JLT 2018: Carlton vs St Kilda at Ikon on Wednesday - PaulP - 02-28-2018
(02-28-2018, 09:10 PM)Lods link Wrote:He copped an injury in that game.
I suspect he played injured for a lot of the season but towards the end he was starting to regain his form.
He was amongst our best in the Swans game at the end of the year.
If the club is playing a young man like that injured, a young No1 pick at the very start of his career, then the people responsible need several swift kicks up the ar$e. Very poor player mangement IMO.
Re: JLT 2018: Carlton vs St Kilda at Ikon on Wednesday - mateinone - 02-28-2018
I can hardly believe some comments. Geez Weitering is the same age as Jack, Harry, and Charlie.
He is going to be perfectly fine and a key part of our defense. He is easily in our best 22 and talk about balance and all that is rubbish. He is a good enough player that he will slot straight in.
Re: JLT 2018: Carlton vs St Kilda at Ikon on Wednesday - mateinone - 02-28-2018
(02-28-2018, 10:01 PM)PaulP link Wrote:If the club is playing a young man like that injured, a young No1 pick at the very start of his career, then the people responsible need several swift kicks up the ar$e. Very poor player mangement IMO.
A large percentage of players have niggles and play through them though Paul it depends on what the injury is. It may very well have been something that was always going to clear up over time or need a clean up at season end. That is stock standard.
Re: JLT 2018: Carlton vs St Kilda at Ikon on Wednesday - mateinone - 02-28-2018
(02-28-2018, 11:34 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:If he is loose are you playing another man back to pick up his man or are you allowing Weiterings nominated opponent to also be loose? the latter is a dangerous tactic given Richmonds
entry rate and ability to rebound quickly which doesnt include bombing the ball, rather they hit up their smalls on the run and look to burn you on the break by creating the overlap.
Actually I think Richmond scuff the ball forward. They don't bomb long, but I don't think they are hitting up a lot of targets either. I think they trust themselves on the ground.
I would be playing with a 7 man defense against Richmond and wanting Weitering to just hover. I agree that finding tactics against Richmond will be difficult, but that it to be expected in a team that won their finals by about 7 goals each and won the flag.