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Re: Rnd 1 Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game - flyboy77 - 03-06-2018
(03-06-2018, 10:18 PM)LP link Wrote:No doubt, but I've just spent three days reading and responding to posts from Kruddler that tell me teams like Nthmond are trending towards small fast forward structures leaving Weitering types nobody to play on. More the fool me!
LP, i gave up reading that little tete a tete!
Looking forward to Weiters and SPS having a run this Saturday.
No reason we can't beat the Dawks comfortably too. Put Ed C on Mitchell...
I think our newly found 'outside' speed, courtesy of SPS, Dow, Mullett, the two Jarrods, Lang will catch many teams off guard this year - get a 5+ goal lead in Q1 and any decent team is pretty hard to claw back.....
Re: Rnd 1 Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game - Thryleon - 03-07-2018
(03-06-2018, 07:09 AM)PaulP link Wrote:The Dogs comparison is perfectly valid.
At any rate, there are people on here who will tell you that the Tigers are major league plonkers, and even their best 22 is barely good enough to finish 9th. And here we are discussing injuries.
Bullcrap.
Not that good and Major League Plonkers is absolutely not the same thing.
Also, teams with a good run with zero injuries do tend to do pretty well in the season proper (and by extension the finals). You could even argue that it was the difference between Adelaide losing the flag last year, as they had quite a few start to drop off torwards the end of the year, including question marks on Rory Sloane and Eddie Betts.
As for the Doggies, your assertion regarding their run with injuries was false. They survived the season with many injuries but come finals football, it was widely reported that the new bye round made the difference between them being able to get their better players back from injury with another week off to recover and then compete better.
remember when the crows played the Giants in the qualifying final?? Rory Sloane had to undergo a fitness test to play that game. Eddie had also had his appendix removed a couple of weeks earlier too. The Tigers most recent injury before that happend months earlier with a freak incident hurting Riewoldts eye at training.
Finally, the other teams in the finals also each had a major injury to at least one key player during the finals series. The Tigers had NONE.
Re: Rnd 1 Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game - PaulP - 03-07-2018
(03-07-2018, 12:24 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Bullcrap.
Not that good and Major League Plonkers is absolutely not the same thing.
Also, teams with a good run with zero injuries do tend to do pretty well in the season proper (and by extension the finals). You could even argue that it was the difference between Adelaide losing the flag last year, as they had quite a few start to drop off torwards the end of the year, including question marks on Rory Sloane and Eddie Betts.
As for the Doggies, your assertion regarding their run with injuries was false. They survived the season with many injuries but come finals football, it was widely reported that the new bye round made the difference between them being able to get their better players back from injury with another week off to recover and then compete better.
remember when the crows played the Giants in the qualifying final?? Rory Sloane had to undergo a fitness test to play that game. Eddie had also had his appendix removed a couple of weeks earlier too. The Tigers most recent injury before that happend months earlier with a freak incident hurting Riewoldts eye at training.
Finally, the other teams in the finals also each had a major injury to at least one key player during the finals series. The Tigers had NONE.
The point I'm making is this : there is a view that the Tigers blessed run with injuries was the difference between flag and no flag. I don't agree with this, although clearly it made their run home easier.
Re: Rnd 1 Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game - flyboy77 - 03-07-2018
It made a bigger difference to their run all season. Continuity with a core, large group got them across the line in several close encounters....builds confidence etc etc.
If they lose Dusty to injury for a decent period, for example, how will they go then? :o
Re: Rnd 1 Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game - madbluboy - 03-07-2018
Crows were always a bit flaky and bullied the weak teams, the tigers got stronger as the year went on.
Re: Rnd 1 Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game - LP - 03-07-2018
(03-06-2018, 10:47 PM)flyboy77 link Wrote:I think our newly found 'outside' speed, courtesy of SPS, Dow, Mullett, the two Jarrods, Lang will catch many teams off guard this year - get a 5+ goal lead in Q1 and any decent team is pretty hard to claw back.....
Opposition speedsters won't stroll out of our defence if we have mids capable and prepared to chase them down.
Re: Rnd 1 Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game - BluePhantom - 03-07-2018
(03-07-2018, 01:58 AM)LP link Wrote:Opposition speedsters won't stroll out of our defence if we have mids capable and prepared to chase them down.
And LP goes BANG! ;D
Re: Rnd 1 Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game - PaulP - 03-07-2018
(03-07-2018, 01:20 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:It made a bigger difference to their run all season. Continuity with a core, large group got them across the line in several close encounters....builds confidence etc etc.
If they lose Dusty to injury for a decent period, for example, how will they go then? :o
They also lost 4 games by less than 1 goal, so clearly the much vaunted core large group is a hit and miss affair.
Dusty has played 20 or more games every single season since his debut in 2010, but the Tigers only looked good this season. He had a super 2017 - Leigh Matthews said it was the greatest season ever by a player. So what made more of a difference to the Tigers last year ? Was it his super season, or was it the different players / culture etc. around him that made the bigger difference ? I say the latter.
Re: Rnd 1 Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game - Bear - 03-07-2018
Dusty was probably the stand out player in the comp last year... He was significantly better than previous years.
Congratulations to him... hopefully come rd 1 he gets smashed into the MCG turf and breaks a collarbone.
Re: Rnd 1 Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game - PaulP - 03-07-2018
(03-07-2018, 03:59 AM)Bear link Wrote:Dusty was probably the stand out player in the comp last year... He was significantly better than previous years.
Congratulations to him... hopefully come rd 1 he gets smashed into the MCG turf and breaks a collarbone.
I don't hope for that at all. As a spectator, you want to see the best the AFL has to offer. Claiming Dusty as a legitimate AFL scalp would be quite something for any opponent.