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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - cookie2 - 04-01-2021

(04-01-2021, 06:13 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Cookie, Any positive side effects like hair growth on the bonce, if there is I might order a double shot..??

Not so far but ever hopeful.......?


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Thryleon - 04-01-2021

Word on the street is take panadol when you get your jab.

Helps alleviate symptoms.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - madbluboy - 04-02-2021

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/coronavirus/covid19-australian-man-has-blood-clot-condition-after-astrazeneca-vaccine/news-story/1462d9c67cb20424a7f808ae6d6f2bde

A man has been admitted to a Melbourne hospital with a rare blood clotting condition following the AstraZeneca vaccine.

The Australian reports Australia’s chief health officers are urgently reviewing the case after he got the AstraZeneca vaccine on March 22, presented to hospital suffering fever and abdominal pain and was found to have abdominal clots with a very low platelet count.

The symptoms are similar to those seen by German scientists in patients following administration of the AstraZeneca vaccine overseas.

The condition forced Canada to suspend use of the AstraZeneca vaccine in people aged under 55.

The European Medicines Agency is investigating any links between the condition and the AstraZeneca vaccine.

The Australian Health Protection Principal Committee reportedly met today and is discussing the Melbourne case, with deputy chief health officer Michael Kidd.

An update is expected this afternoon.

The AstraZeneca vaccine is currently being produced by CSL in Melbourne.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - DJC - 04-02-2021

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-02/man-who-received-astrazeneca-coronavirus-vaccine-has-blood-clots/100046540

Quote:The man was vaccinated on or around March 22 and was recently admitted to Box Hill Hospital in Melbourne with serious thrombosis and a low platelet count.

It is not clear whether the man's clots are related to the vaccine dose he received. About 30,000 Australians develop thrombosis every year.

"He had low platelets, but he had clots in his liver, in his spleen and in his gut in general," Coronacast host Dr Norman Swan told ABC News.

"So, he fits the description of vaccine-induced pro-thrombotic thrombocytopenia. He fits the case description."

Australian Medical Association vice-president Chris Moy told the ABC European authorities had been investigating whether there was a link between the AstraZeneca vaccine and blood clots.

"What they found was there was definitely no overall risk of clotting throughout the community that was given the vaccine," he said.

"And that the risk was so low, the benefits of the vaccine would far outweigh any potential risk.

But they were still looking at this little group where you have this very rare occurrence.

The rate was somewhere in the order of one in maybe several hundred thousand to one in a million or so [actually between 1 in 125,000 and 1 in 1,000,000 according to Science Table COVID-19 Advisory for Ontario].

Because of the low numbers, there's a lot of work to try to work out whether this is a real association or purely chance.

"I know right throughout the world everyone is looking at this very carefully."

The Science Table COVID-19 Advisory for Ontario is worth reading:

https://covid19-sciencetable.ca/sciencebrief/vaccine-induced-prothrombotic-immune-thrombocytopenia-vipit-following-astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccination/

Basically they say that you have a 1 in 100 chance of ending up in intensive care if you get COVID-19 and, compared with a 1 in 125,000 (and probably much lower) chance of developing PTT (if there is a causal link), you're better off having the vaccine.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 04-02-2021

(04-01-2021, 01:23 PM)Thryleon date Wrote:Word on the street is take panadol when you get your jab.

Helps alleviate symptoms.
I suppose if you were paranoid or worried about clots, and you are not already on it, then low dose aspirin might be a go as well!

Personally, I'd be far more worried about clots from catching the full disease, but even so it pays to be vigilant!

I wonder if some of these cases have other complications, like they are taking NSAIDs which are notorious for introducing complications in lots of different medicines, including clots or bleeds. The clustered reports almost always seem to disappear on investigation, that indicates other mitigating circumstances. People think because something is over the counter, it's safe, so they don't even mention they taken it to  a doctor.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - cookie2 - 04-02-2021

Already on blood thinners so hopefully ok!


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 04-02-2021

(04-02-2021, 06:41 AM)cookie2 date Wrote:Already on blood thinners so hopefully ok!
 Even more important then to have the vaccine, as it seems COVID risk is higher for people like you and me! Wink


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-02-2021

Canada have canned the AstraZ for Under 55's. I believe in Aus if you are a cardiac patient or on certain meds you can ask for the Pfizer instead of the AstraZ but not sure if it has to be through a specialist or your GP clinic.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - capcom - 04-02-2021

(04-02-2021, 06:56 AM)LP link Wrote:Even more important then to have the vaccine, as it seems COVID risk is higher for people like you and me! Wink

Maybe not?

https://strokefoundation.org.au/News/2021/02/11/06/28/Information-for-the-stroke-community-about-COVID19-vaccination


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - flyboy77 - 04-02-2021

The Indians are doing pretty darn well with this....

But heck, too much egg on people's faces, let alone criminal negligence claims, if the powers that be in western nations were to roll over and say heck, we had a fix all along.....