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Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - Gointocarlton - 09-09-2024
So I watched the first half up to our first goal
qtr time
Bris 19 I50s to Carl 8
Bris 5.5.35 to Carl 0.0.0
at the first Carl goal by Cripps
Bris 29 I50s to Carl 20
Bris 9.6.60 to Carl 1.0.6
It was hard to watch but I just wanted to know
Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - Lods - 09-09-2024
(09-09-2024, 01:28 PM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:So I watched the first half up to our first goal
qtr time
Bris 19 I50s to Carl 8
Bris 5.5.35 to Carl 0.0.0
at the first Carl goal by Cripps
Bris 29 I50s to Carl 20
Bris 9.6.60 to Carl 1.0.6
It was hard to watch but I just wanted to know
Inside 50's ended up even 56-56
Don't go back and torture yourself again
but An interesting one or two from that 60-0 time would be ...
How many times in that period the ball entering our 50 was marked by a Brisbane player.
How many times first contact from our inside 50 was a Brisbane player who then saw it out of the 50
Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - LP - 09-09-2024
I50 is a deceptive stat, it can mean barely a step inside the arc on the boundary line or in the corridor at the top of the goalsquare.
Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - laj - 09-09-2024
(09-09-2024, 07:22 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:????That's one and didn't miss alot with repeat injuries.Swans weren't bringing back multiple half fit, underdone players and leaving other out of form ones in. We should have played our fittest possible side. Blokes we had weren't fit enough to get close to anything when the game was hot. Young blokes would have been able too, applied a bit of pressure rather than allowing the likes Zorko to do what he wanted. Makes a huge difference. Many not have won but would not have been 60-0 either. Would have made them work for it a little more.
And just on players returning from injury, look at Papley's stats, 2 goals, 4 scores assists in the last qtr, elite.
If you want it enough you'll get, they (the midfield especially early) just didn't want it.
Only.the fittest succeed in finals. Proven.for over 100 years.As thry say, those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. 80% fit gives 20% output.
This season was just a total f up by all concerned at the top from the fitness bloke to.poor team selection.
Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - Gointocarlton - 09-09-2024
(09-09-2024, 02:00 PM)Lods link Wrote:Inside 50's ended up even 56-56I made notes on everyone, Ill post tonight after work
Don't go back and torture yourself again
An interesting one or two from that 60-0 time would be ...
How many times in that period the ball entering our 50 was marked by a Brisbane player.
How many times first contact from our inside 50 was a Brisbane player who then saw it out of the 50
Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - kruddler - 09-09-2024
Inside 50 stats....
Q1.
8-16 Lions
Q2
16-12 blues
1st half
24-28 Lions
Q3
19-11 blues
Q4
13-15 lions
2nd half
32-26 blues
Total
56-56
'Shots at goal accuracy' (should be i50 conversion)
20 / 56 = 35.7% blues
33 / 56 = 58.9% lions
All stats from afl app
Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - tonyo - 09-09-2024
Inside 50s mean nothing if the ball comes back out faster than it went in.......
Our biggest weakness is getting caught on the slingshot, and it happens more times than I care to remember.
The level of F50 pressure is pathetic - only Fogarty and sometimes Owies actually give anything in this area. The rest trot around and admire the opposition defenders' rebounding skills. The defensive unit must be pulling their hair out when they see that.
Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - northernblue - 09-09-2024
(09-09-2024, 10:06 PM)tonyo link Wrote:Inside 50s mean nothing if the ball comes back out faster than it went in.......
Our biggest weakness is getting caught on the slingshot, and it happens more times than I care to remember.
The level of F50 pressure is pathetic - only Fogarty and sometimes Owies actually give anything in this area. The rest trot around and admire the opposition defenders' rebounding skills. The defensive unit must be pulling their hair out when they see that.
That’s all well and good but if you’re a forward and the ball is delivered NOT to your advantage but to your DISADVANTAGE then you are out of position and cannot impact the contest…
That’s why intercept marks hurt so much
Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - Lods - 09-09-2024
(09-09-2024, 10:06 PM)tonyo link Wrote:Inside 50s mean nothing if the ball comes back out faster than it went in.......
Yep
To reference my old mate Alex in a "Clockwork Orange"...
It's the old "in-out" we have no time for.
Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - tonyo - 09-09-2024
(09-09-2024, 10:34 PM)northernblue date Wrote:That’s all well and good but if you’re a forward and the ball is delivered NOT to your advantage but to your DISADVANTAGE then you are out of position and cannot impact the contest…I would agree with that, but watch how hard most of our forwards chase - most barely get out of a trot. No wonder the opposition can set up such great D50 rebounds - they have plenty of time and space to work out their next move.
That’s why intercept marks hurt so much