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Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane - Gointocarlton - 09-04-2024

(09-03-2024, 11:18 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:People are forgetting you need match fit players and Brisbane are at full strength on their quick home deck.
If we go in with the same team as last week we will get pumped


Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane - Gointocarlton - 09-04-2024

(09-03-2024, 10:07 PM)Baggers link Wrote:I bet even the MC doesn't know our final side as yet. Especially considering there's another training run tomorrow!

My real concern is all the marketing and attention given to the sentimentality of Doc's selection. A wonderful feel good and good news story, and no doubt will lift the lads, momentarily... but... how much of a distraction might it also be? Apologies for being a wet blanket, but there's a very real risk associated with a bloke who hasn't played in heat for so many months.

Hopefully the coaching group is more than aware of the risk of distraction and the risk of limited exposure to game day pressure and expectations for Doc. After five minutes on the field, it's no longer about the romance but about hard-nosed delivery of the job at hand; the harsh reality of the huge task ahead of Doc and the rest of us.

Brisvegas is the red hot favourite for this game, for good reasons. Reality. We're the deserved underdogs.

Selection will be a real balancing act. You can't risk taking too many injury prone blokes into a final. There are in form kids who've delivered over the past few games and deserve inclusion, and a number of blokes lacking match fitness who are susceptible to breaking down, regardless of reputation.
Whilst they might be raging favourite, Bris have a poor record against top 10 teams. Saw something this morning on it, cant find it.


Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane - Baggers - 09-04-2024

(09-04-2024, 12:09 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Whilst they might be raging favourite, Bris have a poor record against top 10 teams. Saw something this morning on it, cant find it.

I'm far from giving up on us, in fact I'm strangely optimistic, but a lot of things need to go right. And it starts with the MC. I strongly believe our culture is superior to Brisvegas, but we need right people on the paddock on Saturday night... blokes who can and will last for 120 minutes of relentless pressure; blokes whose bodies are up for the challenge... we know their hearts and minds are up for it.


Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane - DJC - 09-04-2024

(09-03-2024, 09:42 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:The important training session was yesterday not Sat.

Yes, and we’ve got a couple more sessions before the team is finalised.

My point is that blokes who can’t train on Saturday are unlikely to return to full match fitness by the following Tuesday.  I don’t expect to see Cerra and Martin in the 23.  If they are selected, I will be surprised if they (a) perform anywhere near their best, and (b) stay on the park.


Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane - Gointocarlton - 09-04-2024

(09-04-2024, 12:20 AM)Baggers link Wrote:I'm far from giving up on us, in fact I'm strangely optimistic, but a lot of things need to go right. And it starts with the MC. I strongly believe our culture is superior to Brisvegas, but we need right people on the paddock on Saturday night... blokes who can and will last for 120 minutes of relentless pressure; blokes whose bodies are up for the challenge... we know their hearts and minds are up for it.
Right now, I have faith the MC will pick the side that will give us the best chance of winning and they will have reasons and data to back the selections (that we simply aren't privy to). Of course after the fact (ie hindsight) it wont stop us from professing to have known better.


Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane - bratblue - 09-04-2024

(09-04-2024, 12:46 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Right now, I have faith the MC will pick the side that will give us the best chance of winning and they will have reasons and data to back the selections (they we simply aren't privy to). Of course after the fact (ie hindsight) it wont stop us from professing to have known better.

A lot of us know better already, we're just keeping it secret...


Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane - Professer E - 09-04-2024

I hope you're right, but my faith in the MC has been sorely tested to the point where I don't have much left


Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane - Gointocarlton - 09-04-2024

(09-04-2024, 01:12 AM)Professer E link Wrote:I hope you're right, but my faith in the MC has been sorely tested to the point where I don't have much left
Thats my point Prof, our faith is tested but its on face value without knowing all the facts and data the MC have in front them.


Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane - DJC - 09-04-2024

(09-04-2024, 01:49 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Thats my point Prof, our faith is tested but its on face value without knowing all the facts and data the MC have in front them.

If we lose, the MC got in wrong.  If we win, the MC got it wrong because we should have won by more ... and that's despite the MC knowing just a tad more about the players' fitness, durability, likely match ups, etc.

According to SEN, McKay, Curnow, De Koning, Martin, Williams, McGovern, Cerra and Docherty all went full bore at yesterday's match sim and should all be available for selection.  A conundrum for the MC, but a good one to have.




Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane - madbluboy - 09-04-2024

(09-04-2024, 01:49 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Thats my point Prof, our faith is tested but its on face value without knowing all the facts and data the MC have in front them.

They played Charlie Curnow who was in doubt the whole week  against Hawthorn and he could barely move before his ankle completely gave way.
They clearly made a mistake there.