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Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda - northernblue - 04-27-2023
We can all probably wear that hat dodge
Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda - Baggers - 04-27-2023
(04-27-2023, 01:08 PM)dodge link Wrote:Problem is that when Harry thinks, he shouldn't, and when he doesn't think, he should.
H probably needs a really simple equation. Further out than, say, 25 metres... drop punt every time regardless of angles. Within 25, whichever seems best, take the time to decide then commit to it. It's the 'caught in two minds' which probably stuffs him up.
Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda - madbluboy - 04-27-2023
The only guy who could coach him still plays for Richmond.
Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda - pinot - 04-28-2023
H at 25 is still young - entered beast mode early at 23 - has another 10 years in front of him. He is just a very tall bloke and drop of ball is a fair distance from his hands to feet. He will continue to work on it but it isnt easy for him.
Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda - LP - 04-28-2023
Fans want some constraints placed on BigH based on their past experiences and observations, but I can't ever recall seeing a bloke from any team who is capable of kicking bananas from outside 50m before, so it's all new!
Let him be, let him perfect his art the best he can and show us what he can do, we might be pleasantly surprised!
Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-28-2023
(04-28-2023, 03:32 AM)LP link Wrote:Fans want some constraints placed on BigH based on their past experiences and observations, but I can't ever recall seeing a bloke from any team who is capable of kicking bananas from outside 50m before, so it's all new!I dont want him becoming the next Joe Daniher and losing us a final and imho he needs to fix his problems now while he still young. Dont expect him to be 90% plus accurate just kick the regulation ones he should kick like Charlie does....
Let him be, let him perfect his art the best he can and show us what he can do, we might be pleasantly surprised!
Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda - LP - 04-28-2023
(04-28-2023, 04:39 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:I dont want him becoming the next Joe Daniher and losing us a final and imho he needs to fix his problems now while he still young. Dont expect him to be 90% plus accurate just kick the regulation ones he should kick like Charlie does....Agreed, but I'm not sure Charlie is the best example.
Charlie missed a pudding from about 25m out just last weekend, and another that probably should be 60/40. From the difficulty of the shots he probably should have kicked 4-2 or 5-1 rather than 3-3.
But he'll have a good one soon and kick 5 or 6 straight, this is the way it goes!
FWIW SoJ kicked 2-3, and probably should have kicked 3-2, the shot on the boundary was a bit tough to expect a result.
If I recall we also had a couple of shots from around 50m or just inside 50m that either failed to score or were rushed. Also wasn't there one I recall that was touched because we left an Aints defender unattended on the goal line, and one at their end should have been touched except we didn't have a tall on the goal line and went over a small hand for a goal.
These little things add up, we can probably see 4 or 5 goals difference in there without changing a thing!
Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-28-2023
(04-28-2023, 05:24 AM)LP link Wrote:Agreed, but I'm not sure Charlie is the best example.JSOS is another who needs to smarten up his kicking for goal and should be under the same spotlight as Harry.
Charlie missed a pudding from about 25m out just last weekend, and another that probably should be 60/40. From the difficulty of the shots he probably should have kicked 4-2 or 5-1 rather than 3-3.
But he'll have a good one soon and kick 5 or 6 straight, this is the way it goes!
FWIW SoJ kicked 2-3, and probably should have kicked 3-2, the shot on the boundary was a bit tough to expect a result.
If I recall we also had a couple of shots from around 50m or just inside 50m that either failed to score or were rushed. Also wasn't there one I recall that was touched because we left an Aints defender unattended on the goal line, and one at their end should have been touched except we didn't have a tall on the goal line and went over a small hand for a goal.
These little things add up, we can probably see 4 or 5 goals difference in there without changing a thing!
Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda - kruddler - 04-28-2023
(04-28-2023, 03:32 AM)LP link Wrote:Fans want some constraints placed on BigH based on their past experiences and observations, but I can't ever recall seeing a bloke from any team who is capable of kicking bananas from outside 50m before, so it's all new!
Let him be, let him perfect his art the best he can and show us what he can do, we might be pleasantly surprised!
Harry won't kick a snap from outside 50. His limit is in the 40-45m range depending on wind/stadium (further is for inside Marvel vs MCG).
People keep complaining about Harry and his snaps. Last year (or the year prior....or both) his accuracy for snaps was higher than his accuracy for standard drop punts. So its more about perception than reality.
I think its the snaps that go in the opposite direction that get noticed more than a drop punt that misses. End result for both is a miss. But the snap gets more attention because it missed by more.