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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - PaulP - 03-20-2020

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/younger-adults-are-a-large-percentage-of-coronavirus-hospitalisations-in-us-europe-data-shows-20200320-p54c0o.html

Not just the oldies apparently.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - PaulP - 03-20-2020

(03-19-2020, 11:11 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:Just an FYI guys.

I have taken a more inactive stance of late.  A bit of intolerance of each others opinion fuelling it and simply put, Id much rather keep my sanity than involve myself in some pi55ing contest online that means nought in the greater scheme of things.

Word coming through from work (at a Victorian Hospital), is that the really difficult time for Coronavirus will begin shortly (based on data analytics used to look at number of patients presenting and screening) and that they are forecasting that our ICU beds will reach capacity around the 7th of April.

I thought it my duty to give everyone a little bit of a heads up to remain safe, and err on the side of caution.

The numbers are showing that they are starting to trend upwards at a pretty quick rate (doubling in terms of number of presentations) since the 7th of March, n

Thanks for the heads up.

I did notice you were quiet lately.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 03-20-2020

(03-19-2020, 11:11 PM)Thryleon date Wrote:Just an FYI guys.

I have taken a more inactive stance of late.  A bit of intolerance of each others opinion fuelling it and simply put, Id much rather keep my sanity than involve myself in some pi55ing contest online that means nought in the greater scheme of things.
No doubt it's a serious situation, we need to do everything we can to make your life and the life of others at the front line easier. Even more so in the knowledge that this years Infuenza season will be coincident to COVID-19 and from all Northern Hemisphere reports one of the worst on record.

That includes;
 - Following basic hygiene procedures, it's no guaranteed to stop someone getting an infection but it will certainly slow the spread.
 - Do not panic buy goods, food, drugs, or whatever, leaving the most even more vulnerable.
 - Do not make hysterical and paranoid decisions.
 - Do not roll up to hospitals for a runny nose or itchy wrinkle, neither mean you have COVID-19 or Influenza.
 - Care for and take notice of people around you.
 - Self-isolate if you are sick, do not ignore or flout the Self-isolation rules.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 03-20-2020

(03-20-2020, 12:48 AM)PaulP date Wrote:https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/younger-adults-are-a-large-percentage-of-coronavirus-hospitalisations-in-us-europe-data-shows-20200320-p54c0o.html

Not just the oldies apparently.
Everybody can get it, no serious scientific or medical commentator ever made the claims that kids and young people can't get it or that they are immune, it's bogus to make such claims.

It's ironic that the media are now contradicting the stories they published saying youngies were immune just a week ago. Like today the media is contradicting the Paracetamol vs NSAID and COVID-19 will kill you stories of yesterday, after they caused a panic!

If you are in a vulnerable category your age is irrelevant, you are vulnerable, even some healthy people will be vulnerable in the same way healthy people can be killed by a peanut.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - PaulP - 03-20-2020

Yep, all good points LP. There's no guarantees in any aspect of life, but giving yourself the best chance of living healthy and getting through this starts well before this or any other virus. It's amazing how basic it all is, and it's amazing how so few people actually do it -good diet, regular exercise, good sleep, keep stress to a minimum. The last one is tricky and certainly not easy, but there's no excuse for not doing the first three.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 03-20-2020

(03-20-2020, 01:34 AM)PaulP date Wrote:Yep, all good points LP. There's no guarantees in any aspect of life, but giving yourself the best chance of living healthy and getting through this starts well before this or any other virus. It's amazing how basic it all is, and it's amazing how so few people actually do it -good diet, regular exercise, good sleep, keep stress to a minimum. The last one is tricky and certainly not easy, but there's no excuse for not doing the first three.
Around the area I work all the hospitals are asking their staff to participate in gentle fitness sessions, they are basically being taken for power-walks under the guidance of trainers to de-stress and get some fresh air. The fitness benefit would seem low, but the mental health benefit must be immeasurable.

The mental health issues are severe. This morning I noticed a receptionist running outside to cough, not because she has any real symptoms, but because she feels so socially pressured by the situation and the way people are reacting. It's unhealthy and a direct result of the hysteria.

I thought a huge tell on the hoarding was that the most severe hoarding is coming from the cheap shops, Coles / Woolies / Aldi, etc., etc.. Apparently the NQR near our home was lucky to be left with the shelving! My local area Woolies is gutted like a fish, but the IGA, butcher, greengrocer and fancy Provedore can't sell a crumb! The Provedore is over-loaded in loose pasta that you can buy by the scoop and nobody wants it, not because they are scared of the scoop, but because it costs twice as much. That shows you how little the hoarders need what they are hoarding!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - kruddler - 03-20-2020

(03-20-2020, 01:41 AM)LP link Wrote:The mental health issues are severe. This morning I noticed a receptionist running outside to cough, not because she has any real symptoms, but because she feels so socially pressured by the situation and the way people are reacting. It's unhealthy and a direct result of the hysteria.

Speaking of all this social pressure...
My youngest had a sniffle the other day, so i had to stay home from work because if i sent him in, i'd get a call to come get him because he might have Corona.

That night i started getting a sore throat, by morning i had it in the ears as well. So i told the boss that i wouldn't be coming in.
Same thing for today....he said just stay home until i'm better.

If it wasn't for all this panic, i would've gone into work and not even mentioned it.

Now, tomorrow is my brothers wedding. He has had to ring guests and tell him they are no longer allowed to come because the number of people has to be under 100....including staff. That is such a sucky thing to have to do.
If i turn up and people find out i'm sick, then there will be plenty of disapproving looks.
If i don't turn up, i'll forever hear about it...not from my brother, but the extended family.

Social pressure is making me want to miss my brothers wedding!

How would you guys feel if you were in my position?
How would you guys feel if you were another guest at the wedding?

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - PaulP - 03-20-2020

Interesting reading LP. It's a massive problem that as a planet, we are now fatter than ever, and that as a country, we are the fattest of the fat. If I ran the show, there would definitely be health assessments for all workers, and mandatory fitness sessions every working day. The benefits are immeasurable, not just to the individual, but to the country as a whole.

And yes, the hoarding is totally unnecessary.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - ElwoodBlues1 - 03-20-2020

(03-20-2020, 02:10 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Speaking of all this social pressure...
My youngest had a sniffle the other day, so i had to stay home from work because if i sent him in, i'd get a call to come get him because he might have Corona.

That night i started getting a sore throat, by morning i had it in the ears as well. So i told the boss that i wouldn't be coming in.
Same thing for today....he said just stay home until i'm better.

If it wasn't for all this panic, i would've gone into work and not even mentioned it.

Now, tomorrow is my brothers wedding. He has had to ring guests and tell him they are no longer allowed to come because the number of people has to be under 100....including staff. That is such a sucky thing to have to do.
If i turn up and people find out i'm sick, then there will be plenty of disapproving looks.
If i don't turn up, i'll forever hear about it...not from my brother, but the extended family.

Social pressure is making me want to miss my brothers wedding!

How would you guys feel if you were in my position?
How would you guys feel if you were another guest at the wedding?

I would have cancelled the wedding, my son has got engaged and we were due a engagement party in 2 weeks......but they cancelled the event. Didnt want to pick and choose who comes or risk older attendees, my wifes stupid relo's in NSW are having a wedding function today and seem oblivious to the crisis, one is a nurse who organised the wedding..go figure.
My English relatives sent me pictures with them partying at the local pub this week, not a care in the world...

A lot of people we know have the sore throat, blocked/pressure sinus/ears, headaches etc and are just staying home to recover

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 03-20-2020

(03-20-2020, 02:10 AM)kruddler date Wrote:Social pressure is making me want to miss my brothers wedding!

How would you guys feel if you were in my position?
How would you guys feel if you were another guest at the wedding?
Yes, it's a no win, sorry to hear you're stuck in that situation.

Perhaps the kindest thing is for the venue to cancel, then nobody gets the blame except and commercial entity. Unfair on everybody, but maybe the only human solution. A technicality if you will, not somebodies fault.

What value a wedding where the photos are full of people wearing masks, because you know there will be some there wearing a mask, and there is a risk that won't be a happy memory but a memorial!

By the end of the Flu season, a lot of this will be sorted out, but that's August / Sept.