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Re: If Not BB, Who? - kruddler - 04-13-2019
(04-13-2019, 11:29 PM)Lods link Wrote:Can you point to one of those Kruds
I can't recall the 66/3year ever being used directly by a club official.
It's why I asked for a direct reference.
Multiple drafts could mean any number.
Nah, i've searched before for no luck. Not everything is in the written form, and wading through hours worth of press conferences is not something i care to take the time to do.
Re: If Not BB, Who? - Lods - 04-13-2019
(04-13-2019, 11:30 PM)kruddler link Wrote:This goes back to what i was saying earlier. Vocal minority
TBH, f*** them.
I don't need the club to pander to supporters who think we should have won a flag yesterday. I just want the club to get it right.
I understand that the club 'sold' the idea in the way they did. Playing it out warts and all would do nothing for the confidence of players, supporters and sponsors and served very little purpose apart from to reign in expectations for this 'vocal minority'
Not only does it dissuade potential sponsors. But it allows the players to think its ok to be losing as it was 'expected'.
Nope. Screw that. I'm happy the club did what it did.
I'm not happy.
I've thought from the start it was an exercise to buy time without consequence.
There may also have been a hidden agenda there to force out a coach who was never going to have his record damaged by going through a rebuilding process.
We had a side that finished 9th (actually ended up 6th due to the Essendon scandal)
The next year was an injury savaged year that saw us drop down then ladder.
Then two games into the 2015 season they sucked the absolute life out of the playing group by announcing a rebuild....two games!!
Since then we've dived to the bottom.
Would we be in a worse position if we hadn't followed the total rebuild path.
Well we could hardly be, could we.
To say we would be worse off assumes we would have been totally inactive during trades and draft .
We may not have had the currency but we would still have had options.
It may not have been Weitering, Dow and Walsh but there would still have been decent players there with mid first round picks.
Ah, "But the youth...the future you say."
Lets see how that develops before we call it.
But there is little point dwelling on the past.
What all of us want to see is a successful club.
A club winning games on a regular basis
We've been too long in the wilderness.
Re: If Not BB, Who? - Lods - 04-13-2019
(04-13-2019, 11:32 PM)kruddler link Wrote:Nah, i've searched before for no luck. Not everything is in the written form, and wading through hours worth of press conferences is not something i care to take the time to do.
Then failing that we have to assume no official ever put a deadline on the rebuild publicly.
Re: If Not BB, Who? - kruddler - 04-13-2019
(04-13-2019, 11:47 PM)Lods link Wrote:I'm not happy.
I've thought from the start it was an exercise to buy time without consequence.
There may also have been a hidden agenda there to force out a coach who was never going to have his record damaged by going through a rebuilding process.
We had a side that finished 9th (actually ended up 6th due to the Essendon scandal)
The next year was an injury savaged year that saw us drop down then ladder.
Then two games into the 2015 season they sucked the absolute life out of the playing group by announcing a rebuild....two games!!
Since then we've dived to the bottom.
Would we be in a worse position if we hadn't followed the total rebuild path.
Well we could hardly be, could we.
To say we would be worse off assumes we would have been totally inactive during trades and draft .
We may not have had the currency but we would still have had options.
It may not have been Weitering, Dow and Walsh but there would still have been decent players there with mid first round picks.
Ah, "But the youth...the future you say."
Lets see how that develops before we call it.
But there is little point dwelling on the past.
What all of us want to see is a successful club.
A club winning games on a regular basis
We've been too long in the wilderness.
You may remember that my thoughts on Rattens sacking alingned with yours at the time. Probably a bit harsh, but with all the external pressure, it had to happen.
You would be aware that my thoughts on Malthouse seems contrary to public opinion. In the end, with all the external pressure, it had to happen.
Now....we are starting to get some external pressure on Bolton.
Connect the dots.
Basically we cannot undo what was done in the past. I've been very strong on the fact that the problem has NOT been with the coaches, but with the club as a whole. Partly due to the way it implodes when external pressure starts getting applied....by that vocal minority.
I wish the club had balls to back Ratten in.
I with the club had balls to let Malthouse do what he wanted and actually supported him rather than hang him out to dry.
I hope the club does NOT go through this same knee jerk reaction now.
Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it
So with that in mind, and knowing that the club expected a 3-year draft top up, doing anything other than back Bolton (and a rebuilt club i might add) in, would be absolute madness.
Re: If Not BB, Who? - Lods - 04-14-2019
Sacking him now isn't going to happen
And when and if he does go he should have some company.
Anyway I'm off to the footy to hopefully watch him coach a winning game.
Re: If Not BB, Who? - DJC - 04-14-2019
(04-14-2019, 12:10 AM)Lods link Wrote:Sacking him now isn't going to happen
And when and if he does go he should have some company.
Anyway I'm off to the footy to hopefully watch him coach a winning game.
Enjoy the game Lods - I hope your team winsÂ
Re: If Not BB, Who? - Baggers - 04-14-2019
(04-13-2019, 11:57 PM)kruddler link Wrote:You may remember that my thoughts on Rattens sacking alingned with yours at the time. Probably a bit harsh, but with all the external pressure, it had to happen.
You would be aware that my thoughts on Malthouse seems contrary to public opinion. In the end, with all the external pressure, it had to happen.
Now....we are starting to get some external pressure on Bolton.
Connect the dots.
Basically we cannot undo what was done in the past. I've been very strong on the fact that the problem has NOT been with the coaches, but with the club as a whole. Partly due to the way it implodes when external pressure starts getting applied....by that vocal minority.
I wish the club had balls to back Ratten in.
I with the club had balls to let Malthouse do what he wanted and actually supported him rather than hang him out to dry.
I hope the club does NOT go through this same knee jerk reaction now.
Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it
So with that in mind, and knowing that the club expected a 3-year draft top up, doing anything other than back Bolton (and a rebuilt club i might add) in, would be absolute madness.
But what if we've finally changed our ways only to, ironically, stay the course with the wrong people on the wrong course?
Re: If Not BB, Who? - kruddler - 04-14-2019
(04-14-2019, 12:17 AM)Baggers link Wrote:But what if we've finally changed our ways only to, ironically, stay the course with the wrong people on the wrong course?
I'm not saying he has lifetime immunity. But what i'm saying is that now its too soon to change.
Re: If Not BB, Who? - Baggers - 04-14-2019
(04-14-2019, 12:10 AM)Lods link Wrote:Sacking him now isn't going to happen
And when and if he does go he should have some company.
Anyway I'm off to the footy to hopefully watch him coach a winning game.
You might be the lucky omen, Principal LODS.
If by the second half of the year we're producing the same, or worse, then he's gone and as you so rightly state, so should a few others.
Re: If Not BB, Who? - Robblues - 04-14-2019
fifth season, many haven't got that many, need to show something now to keep the faith