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Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - blue4life - 07-10-2018

Pyke had a lot more ability than Robinson has though, so did Didak.
If I recall correctly Malthouse even admitted at the time that if it were two rookies rather than Didak and Shaw the outcome would have been different.
We got rid of a champion full forward for a lack of discipline but I supported the club's decision at the time and still do.


Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - LP - 07-10-2018

(07-10-2018, 02:53 AM)blue4life link Wrote:We got rid of a champion full forward for a lack of discipline but I supported the club's decision at the time and still do.

Very true.

Was Fevola less talented than Didak?

Was pissing on a restaurant window a bigger problem than firing an unlicensed and unregistered pistol into a factory, a gun provided by a bloke who was under police investigation?

Was separating drunken friends at a concert, or lying about defending a team-mate outside a night club, anywhere near as big of a problem?

Were any of Robinson's or Fevola's offenses worse than Drunk Unlicensed Driving?

I understand all the reasons, I do not understand how they can be so differently applied and for integrity to remain!


Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - kruddler - 07-10-2018

(07-10-2018, 02:57 AM)LP link Wrote:Very true.

Was Fevola less talented than Didak?

Was pissing on a restaurant window a bigger problem than firing an unlicensed and unregistered pistol into a factory, a gun provided by a bloke who was under police investigation?

Was separating drunken friends at a concert, or lying about defending a team-mate outside a night club, anywhere near as big of a problem?

Were any of Robinson's or Fevola's offenses worse than Drunk Unlicensed Driving?

I understand all the reasons, I do not understand how they can be so differently applied and for integrity to remain!

Our club was full of problems that needed fixing.
We were simply trying to minimise them.

Collingwood has less problems to deal with, so could focus more of their energies into that sort of thing than we could.


Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - LP - 07-10-2018

(07-10-2018, 03:10 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Our club was full of problems that needed fixing.
We were simply trying to minimise them.

Collingwood has less problems to deal with, so could focus more of their energies into that sort of thing than we could.

So moral judgment or natural justice depend on circumstance, that is another interesting but lengthy debate!

Best give Mav a call!


Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - kruddler - 07-10-2018

(07-10-2018, 03:24 AM)LP link Wrote:So moral judgment or natural justice depend on circumstance, that is another interesting but lengthy debate!

Best give Mav a call!
There is only so much time in the day. Bigger fish to fry.

Why don't cops spend all their time fining people for jaywalking?


Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-10-2018

Martin Pike was a good footballer, got out on the turps a lot but Matthews overlooked it......Pike was a hard unit who Brisbane kept on one year deals to keep him keen.
But he delivered in finals and was a better player than people gave credit to.

Robbo was a stuff up on our behalf and would have been ideal for our list given we have so many choir boys and little kids....vivid memory for me is Gibbs dumping some  Essendon player on the ground before half time and Robbo having to rush in and protect Gibbs ..


Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - blue4life - 07-10-2018

(07-10-2018, 02:57 AM)LP link Wrote:Very true.

Was Fevola less talented than Didak?

Was pissing on a restaurant window a bigger problem than firing an unlicensed and unregistered pistol into a factory, a gun provided by a bloke who was under police investigation?

Was separating drunken friends at a concert, or lying about defending a team-mate outside a night club, anywhere near as big of a problem?

Were any of Robinson's or Fevola's offenses worse than Drunk Unlicensed Driving?

I understand all the reasons, I do not understand how they can be so differently applied and for integrity to remain!

Channel 9 shouldn't have let him go on air as drunk as he was but they did and he made our club look like an undisciplined rabble.
We'd already publicly given him a final warning so we had no choice but to sack him.
The saddest thing to come of it is that we found someone stupid enough to pay a decent price for him and squandered it on Kane Lucas.



Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - PaulP - 07-10-2018

I reckon we would have won a flag with Fevola between 09 and 11.


Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - Thryleon - 07-10-2018

(07-10-2018, 02:53 AM)blue4life link Wrote:Pyke had a lot more ability than Robinson has though, so did Didak.
If I recall correctly Malthouse even admitted at the time that if it were two rookies rather than Didak and Shaw the outcome would have been different.
We got rid of a champion full forward for a lack of discipline but I supported the club's decision at the time and still do.

Forget Robinson.

The bloke has done the best number on over emotional Carlton folk that he has the reputation of having been able to walk on water.

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/M/Mitch_Robinson.html

Hes more solid but unspectacular, and whilst we could use a solid footballer, he had his problems to go with it.

When you think Mitch Robinson, automatically think of Dan Connors.  In a sliding doors situation, that could have been Mitch.


Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - malo - 07-10-2018

(07-10-2018, 04:18 AM)PaulP link Wrote:I reckon we would have won a flag with Fevola between 09 and 11.

2011 (our best chance) -  we got 154 goals out of Walks, Betts & Garlett......would we have got this with a Fev lead forward line ?

We were robbed against the Eagles & cost us a Prelim spot without Fev, we'll never know what difference he might have made.