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Re: JLT game 3 - sydneybluesfan - 03-13-2017
(03-13-2017, 07:37 AM)RiverRat link Wrote:Unfortunately, this seems to be accurate.RR - It's the Bulldog model and it's all the rage - but it is high risk, high return. The problem I see is if you use this method for it to work well you need to outnumber the opposition at the contest, and be able to spread hard to create the free man to give the handball too who can then kick it. You also need good close in skills, and good decision making and vision about who to give the ball too.
It appears to be a facet of the game plan this year, i.e. lots of short quick hand passes to try and get the ball to a player under less pressure. Laudable idea if players have the skill and anticipation to carry it off; laughable otherwise.
We lack a lot of those skill fundamentals, and even Murphy and Gibbs are not great at it as mentioned above. And hand balling to Cripps, Curnow or Kerridge [just to name a few] for them to kick it is a recipe for a turnover.
But no matter what your game style is, when you have as many poorly skilled players and players with poor decision making as we do you are going to struggle big time.
Re: JLT game 3 - Amers - 03-13-2017
It's been a very uninspiring pre-season for me this year. But still a few positives.
LeBois, what a 1st kick, in your AFL debut!! Not much else to go on, but he did provide that 1 little bit of excitement.
No SPS yet, but Fisher, Polson and Macreadie all showed some green shoots, with the chances they were given.
Marchbank and Pickett are both showing that they will add something to our best 22.
Palmer and Smedts have not done a lot to excite, yet, but for me, I'm just happy see Smedts string 3 games togather. I think he has a lot of upside and potential, that can come to the fore, if he can get some continuity into his games played.
2 wins for the NB's in their 1st two praccy matches is also a promising sign IMO, Sheehan, playing well in these games is also pleasing.
I'm coming down to see us in round 1 against the Tiges, I don't really know what to expect, so all I am really hoping for will be 120 minutes of effort, and see where that gets us!
Re: JLT game 3 - flyboy77 - 03-13-2017
(03-13-2017, 01:42 PM)Amers link Wrote:It's been a very uninspiring pre-season for me this year. But still a few positives.
LeBois, what a 1st kick, in your AFL debut!! Not much else to go on, but he did provide that 1 little bit of excitement.
No SPS yet, but Fisher, Polson and Macreadie all showed some green shoots, with the chances they were given.
Marchbank and Pickett are both showing that they will add something to our best 22.
Palmer and Smedts have not done a lot to excite, yet, but for me, I'm just happy see Smedts string 3 games togather. I think he has a lot of upside and potential, that can come to the fore, if he can get some continuity into his games played.
2 wins for the NB's in their 1st two praccy matches is also a promising sign IMO, Sheehan, playing well in these games is also pleasing.
I'm coming down to see us in round 1 against the Tiges, I don't really know what to expect, so all I am really hoping for will be 120 minutes of effort, and see where that gets us!
A bit of reason amongst all the naysayers....cheers Amers.
My bottom line - we'll do a lot better than our 2016 effort.
Need to beat the Tigers and watch the boys' confidence soar!
If Gibbs and Murphy can replicate Cripps' intensity Rd 1 and on, we'll scare a lot of teams....
Kerridge? Backwards at a rate of knots? Maybe needs time in the 2s?
Curnow (Ed?) - i thought his kicking came on heaps last year.....perhaps it's the pressure or perceived pressure the players are under....
Re: JLT game 3 - flyboy77 - 03-13-2017
I note the Cats are trialling Harry T. up forward.....
Re: JLT game 3 - LP - 03-13-2017
(03-13-2017, 08:38 PM)flyboy77 link Wrote:I note the Cats are trialling Harry T. up forward.....
People will make analogies to Weitering, but there is a big difference between swinging a tenth year player around and a kid in his 2nd year.
Taylor knows the game, can switch back to his default defence at the flick of a switch like he never missed a beat.
Despite just how good Jacob Weitering is, he is just a kid learning the ropes. Let Weitering learn the ropes, and in two or three years he'll be another Harry Taylor, Jarryd Roughead or maybe even a Stephen Silvagni.
Re: JLT game 3 - flyboy77 - 03-13-2017
(03-13-2017, 09:18 PM)LP link Wrote:People will make analogies to Weitering, but there is a big difference between swinging a tenth year player around and a kid in his 2nd year.
Taylor knows the game, can switch back to his default defence at the flick of a switch like he never missed a beat.
Despite just how good Jacob Weitering is, he is just a kid learning the ropes. Let Weitering learn the ropes, and in two or three years he'll be another Harry Taylor, Jarryd Roughead or maybe even a Stephen Silvagni.
i was aware that Harry was a tad more seasoned than Jacob!
Re: JLT game 3 - Thryleon - 03-13-2017
the only thing I got out of that, is that Lachie is clearly doing a sterling job as the swingman at the cattery!
Re: JLT game 3 - Professer E - 03-13-2017
Cats are getting desparate... Harry T is a doofus when he plays forward, works ok as a short term shock tactic but he gets lost and vanishes when playing full games up front. Shows the over-reliance on the lug at FF and the lack of reliable forward options.
I thought Touhy was shown up really badly as well.
Re: JLT game 3 - ElwoodBlues1 - 03-13-2017
(03-13-2017, 10:29 PM)Professer E link Wrote:Cats are getting desparate... Harry T is a doofus when he plays forward, works ok as a short term shock tactic but he gets lost and vanishes when playing full games up front. Shows the over-reliance on the lug at FF and the lack of reliable forward options.
I thought Touhy was shown up really badly as well.
I agree Prof,,, HT is fairly uninspiring when played forward and looks lost, Cats are desperate to get the heat off Hawkins and got desperate by moving HT IMO....hence why they recruited Henderson to play down back and cover for HT. They should have recruited a young CHF instead of trying to cheat with Taylor.
I think Weitering looks the part and being younger can learn to play down forward, its worth trying IMO.
Re: JLT game 3 - shawny - 03-14-2017
(03-13-2017, 11:46 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:I agree Prof,,, HT is fairly uninspiring when played forward and looks lost, Cats are desperate to get the heat off Hawkins and got desperate by moving HT IMO....hence why they recruited Henderson to play down back and cover for HT. They should have recruited a young CHF instead of trying to cheat with Taylor.
I think Weitering looks the part and being younger can learn to play down forward, its worth trying IMO.
I agree but in short bursts only.
Very risky playing this 'kid' week in week out as a key forward when we are so deficient and desperate for someone to stand up at that end of the ground. I can see it already he will be under the spotlight with majority of supporters will soon forget his age and stage being critical of him if he doesn't have an impact. In our side he could get the best defender some weeks and/or at best, the second best opposition defender - tough gig for youngstar.
Is this the best thing for him longterm or just what we need so we will push him to fill a important gap at any cost.
Yet playing back (the positon he was recruited to play) he usually gets the 3rd best defender, can intercept mark and not be in everyone's sights as the man we need to make an impact. He just develops slowly as he should. Its only his 2nd year and seems to me that we are throwing him to the wolves in an attempt to get a tough position covered.
Is this what the better teams would do? I think not.
Cripps and him are our best hopes - Cripps already is getting banged up - lets not do the same to Weitering.