(09-09-2024, 08:38 AM)LP link Wrote:I can't recall seeing Cerra look right all season, he's been a shadow of himself.

(09-09-2024, 08:38 AM)LP link Wrote:I can't recall seeing Cerra look right all season, he's been a shadow of himself.

(09-09-2024, 06:46 AM)Lods link Wrote:I'm sorry...
I just cant see it.
Do folks really think the addition of Binns, Lord and Moir would have made a difference to that start?
We were being thrashed in the midfield.
Our 'elite' midfielders were getting soundly beaten.
Would our youngsters like Binns and Lord fared better than a Cripps, Walsh, Hewett
Our pressure and attack on the ball and opposition players was miles off...from our better players.

The only change that would possibly have made a bit of difference was if we'd had DeKoning starting earlier.
Our maligned small forwards were ineffectual because the ball didn't get down there until just before half-time

Binns, Lord and Moir were in the games against West Coast (where we just fell over the line) and St Kilda (where we just didn't)
So how can it possibly be argued they'd have made a difference in a finals match against Brisbane in Brisbane.
They would probably have struggled to match their efforts of the preceeding weeks and we'd have been criticised for throwing them to the wolves.

The argument was.... we had a few returning experienced players who we could mix them in with,
A mix of youth and experienced returning players....as long as they're all fit, was the best selection according to popular theory.

Who?
The two returnees who had most impact were McKay (9 touches) and DeKoning (deemed "not guaranteed to play an entire game".)
We got seduced and excited about a few kids.
It was good experience for them to play the last couple of games
They look like being solid players.
A bit of finals experience may have been good, but that would be the reason to pick them....not because they were ever going to make a difference.

We lost it because the injuries left too many of our players short of a gallop.
And our pressure was miles off our best.

(09-09-2024, 09:47 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:yes but in the first half we went inside fifty 24 times according to the stats.  It came straight out.  That's who we kicked it to and the forwards not getting busy enough. 

(09-09-2024, 10:33 AM)PaulP link Wrote:16 scoring shots from 56 Inside 50's is a terrible return. Just a dirty night all round.

(09-09-2024, 10:09 AM)Lods link Wrote:Yep
That's an example where stats tell only half a story.
The ball went in and came straight back out.
They controlled the air and delivery inside 50 was poor.
On the ground it broke down around half-forward so a lot of those entries were shallow and they were able to mount attacks.

A lot of that is not due to anything other than a lack of defensive pressure in the forward line and that's why the scoreline ended up 60-0

(09-09-2024, 10:36 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:I'd love to know the I50 count for both sides in the first 56 mins.

(09-09-2024, 09:47 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:yes but in the first half we went inside fifty 24 times according to the stats.  It came straight out.  That's who we kicked it to and the forwards not getting busy enough.