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Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb - Gointocarlton - 02-29-2016
(02-28-2016, 11:29 PM)BluePhantom link Wrote:That's fair enough for yesterday Cimm but what about our other games?What he (and his staff) have up their sleeves is a plan which is a novel concept at PP. Everyone should take a chill pill and enjoy the ride, its gonna be bumpy but just embrace it. Its a couple of praccy matches and people are panicking. Chilax peeps.
Hopefully BB has something up his sleeve, he seems to be pretty savvy.
Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb - blue4life - 02-29-2016
(02-29-2016, 01:30 AM)PaulP link Wrote:You get institutionalized whether you are in a losing or a winning culture - subconsciously you expect one or the other, depending on what you've mostly experienced. This will be another big challenge for Bolts and co.
Yep, no argument there from me.
One of our biggest problems is that losing is entrenched, apart from Thomas no player on our list has experienced success at senior level, even to a moderate extent.
It can be turned around but history says that it's never a quick or easy process, personally I think it will be four or five years at a minimum, conditional on a vastly improved result at the National Draft.
Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb - cimm1979 - 02-29-2016
(02-29-2016, 02:08 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Well, that's all good if we actually turn up TO PLAY in Rd 1 AND WIN!!!!
Turn up TO PLAY, I can almost guarantee it.
Win? not sure. Tiges should be cherry ripe for round one. This is year 5 (?) of Hardwick.
We'll have possibly 5-7 new players and a squad implementing, not only BB's game plan and style but, every single line coach. That's a massive task
Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb - flyboy77 - 02-29-2016
(02-29-2016, 02:23 AM)cimm1979 link Wrote:Turn up TO PLAY, I can almost guarantee it.
Win? not sure. Tiges should be cherry ripe for round one. This is year 5 (?) of Hardwick.
We'll have possibly 5-7 new players and a squad implementing, not only BB's game plan and style but, every single line coach. That's a massive task
Massive ask yes but we can't aim for honourable losses.....
Our midfield matches up very well with theirs, very well imo.
Weitering on Riewoldt? Similar size.....
Other than Jack, I don't rate their forward line any higher than ours.
Back lines - Rance good, the rest, meh.
Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb - flyboy77 - 02-29-2016
Cheer up ladies, we have this guy!
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-24/jacob-weitering-what-are-the-blues-getting-for-their-no1-draft-pick
Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb - cimm1979 - 02-29-2016
(02-29-2016, 02:28 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Massive ask yes but we can't aim for honourable losses.....
Our midfield matches up very well with theirs, very well imo.
Weitering on Riewoldt? Similar size.....
Other than Jack, I don't rate their forward line any higher than ours.
Back lines - Rance good, the rest, meh.
Of course you don't aim for honourable losses but you can do everything you can to win and if you come up short , so be it.
There will also be a massive emphasis on development. Which I take to mean as they won't take unecessary risks if they don't dovetail with our long term plans.
That includes playing guys in positions they don't want to or introducing players (like McKay) if they are not ready and losing shitty NAB challenge games if it that matches their strategy.
Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb - LP - 02-29-2016
(02-29-2016, 02:28 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Massive ask yes but we can't aim for honourable losses.....
Our midfield matches up very well with theirs, very well imo.
Weitering on Riewoldt? Similar size.....
Other than Jack, I don't rate their forward line any higher than ours.
Back lines - Rance good, the rest, meh.
I think their backline is better than you give them credit for, despite Rance you have regulars like Houli, Edwards, Ellis and they have even run McIntosh off the HBF a bit. I think one of the motivations for recruiting Yarran was to free up blokes like Ellis and McIntosh for longer midfield rotations. I suspect if anything we should be able to get hold of them around the ground and in the ruck, because Maric is not very mobile and Graham is relatively slow. Choi has some pace though I suspect he won't be a starter this season.
If we can apply some real pressure Nthmond also become pretty ordinary ball users.
Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb - PaulP - 02-29-2016
Clearly, the Tiges have much more riding on this game than us. A must win game for them. First week finals exit for 3 consecutive seasons, Dimmer's final year of contract.........
This, plus a more established, settled and experienced side, should see them home.
A loss for them would be unthinkable.
Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb - DJC - 02-29-2016
Gibbs took a nice mark about 30 metres from goal in the last quarter. Bad luck he was standing in front of the indoor training facility at the time.
Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb - laj - 02-29-2016
(02-29-2016, 02:08 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Well, that's all good if we actually turn up TO PLAY in Rd 1 AND WIN!!!!
I'll be happy if they just turn up to play.