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Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - Mav - 06-07-2016

Yep, he actually thinks he can run the White House like he runs his companies :Smile

One of his brainwaves was that he'd go to America's creditors and tell them they had to re-negotiate or else he'd default on the debts.  He fulminated that the failure of Obama to use this strategy showed how stupid and weak he was given businessmen (including Trump) use this manoeuvre all the time.  He seemed totally unaware that this would crash the $US and wreck the international finance system which relies on the $US being a safe haven.  Millions of Year 12 Economics students (and even most of the Home Economics students) were horrified.


Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - DJC - 06-07-2016

(06-07-2016, 11:55 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:If its based on Politics then I fancy Trump to win as no one rates Hilary's political opinions , if its based on popularity then Hilary Clinton will probably sneak over the line as more people hate Trump...providing they all rock up to vote...
Trump can win some people over with his mad ideas but its seems Clintons best chance is for Trump to shoot himself in the foot .....
My major interest is what the result does to the economy here....the dollar is predicted to fall under 60c next year, house prices will soar and we will have a volatile economy....Trump will have Wall street plummet, drive Chinese trade away from the US and its friends and create massive borrowings in the US to pay for his tax cut policy as he cuts revenue.

His business skills are overated ...he inherited a fortune from his father, has had a series of failed business ventures and relied upon risky property development and a tV show to make money.....we cant afford a US president who runs an economy like he runs his own businesses...

We can't afford to have Trump anywhere near nuclear weapons  :Smile


Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - mateinone - 06-07-2016

(06-07-2016, 12:50 PM)DJC link Wrote:We can't afford to have Trump anywhere near nuclear weapons  :Smile

That is the Hilary line and I don't think that is going to persuade Americans anyway.. Remember Reagan? And they loved him.

Sure the Nuclear weapons is bloody scary, but it always has been,  the bigger issues are one many have touched on. He could literally BREAK the US economy. Lot's of billionaires have made both very dodgy and very speculative deals and he will quickly find his way of doing business has no real place iin national economics and the budget. Hopefully enough Republicans would 'cross the floor' to prevent anything catastrophic, but you never know in that country.




Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - flyboy77 - 06-07-2016

MIO

The US economy is broke. Terminally.

Have a look at their 'balance sheet' sometime - insolvent is being kind....


Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - DJC - 06-07-2016

(06-07-2016, 05:21 PM)mateinone link Wrote:That is the Hilary line and I don't think that is going to persuade Americans anyway.. Remember Reagan? And they loved him.

Sure the Nuclear weapons is bloody scary, but it always has been,  the bigger issues are one many have touched on. He could literally BREAK the US economy. Lot's of billionaires have made both very dodgy and very speculative deals and he will quickly find his way of doing business has no real place iin national economics and the budget. Hopefully enough Republicans would 'cross the floor' to prevent anything catastrophic, but you never know in that country.

Very true!

My American friends are great people but some of them have some very strange ideas.  Returning to a mythical past in the land of opportunity has some appeal.


Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - mateinone - 06-08-2016

(06-07-2016, 10:57 PM)flyboy77 link Wrote:MIO

The US economy is broke. Terminally.

Have a look at their 'balance sheet' sometime - insolvent is being kind....

Oh mate I agree with that and when I was living over there it was something I was perpetually worried about that when the ex and I were looking for what state to live in, however...

There is broken and there is Venezuela style debt crisis trouble.
I think Trump has the ability break it well beyond the current mess


Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - cookie2 - 06-08-2016

The US is experiencing "the demise of empire" insofar as it is arguably no longer the richest, most influential world power to the same degree as it was immediately following WWII. It is the longing a return of the benefits of that, especially among blue collar people who have felt the greatest impact from that decline, that will propel Trump's campaign for the White House. They are not concerned too much about him being in charge of their nuclear arsenal especially in terms of it being focused on self protection. The role of unappreciated world policeman (in their minds) has seriously got whiskers on it as far as they are concerned.


Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - Inboltswetrust - 06-08-2016

(06-07-2016, 07:13 AM)mateinone link Wrote:Trump will be the next president of the USA, barring an absolutely stupendous crash (which of course is also possible with Trump), he will kill Clinton.

He is hated by many, especially women and that was meant to stop him in the Red Neck primaries, but it didn't.

Hilary Clinton is just about as loathed as Trump, but nowhere near as loved. There are a lot of people that believe Trump can be the next Reagan. They believe he can come out strong and take on all the challenges facing America the next 8 years and they are significant.

The economy (apparently because he is a billionaire he will have all the answers here)
China's expansion
Russia's Militarization
ISIS, the Middle East, Worldwide & Domestic Terrorism.
Immigration Controls (legal and illegal)

These are just a few of the issues America consider to be threatening the existence of America... or A Great America.

I think Bernie had a chance against Trump, I don't think Hilary has any. I might end up eating my words here, but Trump was still paying $5 - $6 when he was in front in polls in The Red Neck Primary because people expected the joke to end and people to come to their senses, now they are starting to realise he can win it.

I agree.  I think Trump win hands down.  I actually like him.  He's funny and has a bit of charisma.  Also he wants to get the terrorists big time.  Good. In terms of his war mongering ways, I think we need a strong America, otherwise we could be screwed with the expansion of china.  Go the trumpster. And I got $7 in early markets Smile


Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - ElwoodBlues1 - 06-09-2016

(06-08-2016, 11:22 PM)Inboltswetrust link Wrote:I agree.  I think Trump win hands down.  I actually like him.  He's funny and has a bit of charisma.  Also he wants to get the terrorists big time.  Good. In terms of his war mongering ways, I think we need a strong America, otherwise we could be screwed with the expansion of china.  Go the trumpster. And I got $7 in early markets Smile

'I'm gonna build a military that's gonna be much stronger than it is right now,' The Donald said. 'It's gonna be so strong, nobody's gonna mess with us. But you know what? We can do it for a lot less.'
Not sure how he is doing it for less, or how he is paying for tax cuts....

There was a bloke who started WWII who had plenty of charisma and liked a strong military....DT also said we should have looked after Saddam Hussain and Col Gaddaffi and had them on the payroll...






Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - flyboy77 - 06-09-2016

(06-09-2016, 12:03 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:'I'm gonna build a military that's gonna be much stronger than it is right now,' The Donald said. 'It's gonna be so strong, nobody's gonna mess with us. But you know what? We can do it for a lot less.'
Not sure how he is doing it for less, or how he is paying for tax cuts....

There was a bloke who started WWII who had plenty of charisma and liked a strong military....DT also said we should have looked after Saddam Hussain and Col Gaddaffi and had them on the payroll...

I find it incredibly amusing that anyone could honesly think Trump's "war mongering ways" are any worse than the existing US regime, or many before that, for that matter.

The US has 800 military bases in over 70 countries according to this site......

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/06/us-military-bases-around-the-world-119321


no wonder they're an economic basket case.