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Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - tonyo - 11-08-2020
Anyone want to buy a ticket to the moon....? I have one going.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - ElwoodBlues1 - 11-08-2020
(11-08-2020, 04:57 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:By the by, you realise that old blubber mouth, Al Gore, spent 47 days as 'President elect' 20 years ago?Agree, just read another headline that Joe Biden wins election, picture underneath was that of Kamala only, reckon gentleman Joe did his bit and was the real running mate and we will get Kamala running things with Barack doing some mentoring from the sidelines. Joe might get wheeled out
I doubt Sleepy Joe will get to double digits.
to decorate the troops and kiss a few babies but he ain't running the country imo..
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - DJC - 11-08-2020
(11-08-2020, 04:57 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:By the by, you realise that old blubber mouth, Al Gore, spent 47 days as 'President elect' 20 years ago?
I doubt Sleepy Joe will get to double digits.
I'm not sure that you're correct Fly.
The networks mistakenly awarded the election to Bush and Gore conceded defeat, only to withdraw his concession on learning that the Florida vote was very close. The impasse was broken on 12 December when the Supreme Court ruled in Bush's favour over the Florida recount. That gave Bush a 271 to 266 electoral college margin and the rest is history. Bush was first declared the winner of the Florida vote in late November. Despite winning the popular vote, Gore never achieved 270 electoral college votes.
Biden has 290 electoral college votes to the POTUS's 214 and it would take reversals in several states for the president elect to fall over ... and that's not going to happen.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - PaulP - 11-08-2020
It reflects pretty poorly on the US population that they could be taken in by such a charlatan - not once, but twice. I still can't believe he even got 1 vote. How much of a blind eye do you need to turn to just skip over his absurdly long list of transgressions ?
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - kruddler - 11-08-2020
(11-08-2020, 09:56 AM)PaulP link Wrote:It reflects pretty poorly on the US population that they could be taken in by such a charlatan - not once, but twice. I still can't believe he even got 1 vote. How much of a blind eye do you need to turn to just skip over his absurdly long list of transgressions ?
You assume what we see is what they see.
The US propaganda machine is large and effective.
Looking at how many of them could be 'duped' so easy makes me look in our own backyard and wonder how we are being duped in kind.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Thryleon - 11-08-2020
(11-08-2020, 10:37 AM)kruddler link Wrote:You assume what we see is what they see.
The US propaganda machine is large and effective.
Looking at how many of them could be 'duped' so easy makes me look in our own backyard and wonder how we are being duped in kind.
No they see what we see thats why paulp can't believe he even got one vote.
Trump isn't president material. That's simple, but even his conversation about touching pussy was painted wrong.
He was talking about consent. They let you do anything he stated.
Instead he's being done for talking like many people ive heard talk of faunication with women.
That was deliberate.
Who can forget the #notmypresident?
Anyway, lets see what happens next. Its interesting enough.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Mav - 11-08-2020
To be fair, Thryleon, he was saying he just assumed any women would consent because he was a star, so he didn’t need to bother with looking for signs of consent or giving the woman any offramps. That’s indecent assault or rape if the woman in fact isn’t consenting.
Trump: Yeah, that’s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.
Bush: Whatever you want.
Trump: Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.
The “I’m a star/powerful person and she wanted me to do whatever I wanted” defence hasn’t served Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein or Roger Ailes well.
And the complaints from women show that on this occasion Trump wasn’t lying. One woman accused him of penis into vagina rape and is currently suing him for defamation after he called her a liar.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - kruddler - 11-08-2020
(11-08-2020, 11:19 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:No they see what we see thats why paulp can't believe he even got one vote.
Not really.
The media is so biased that family members living in different part of the 'united' states cannot comprehend how their own flesh and blood can be so deluded.
How can this be true?
They see different things.
The local media cover different things.
Its propaganda.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Lods - 11-08-2020
Different media outlets cover the same story with their own slant and bias.
Folks tend to watch and absorb the one that most closely appeals to their own values and political preference
One person's fact is another person's fiction.
You wont get too many on the left who will watch FOX news.
In fact you'll probably get abused for admitting you sometimes do.
Likewise for those on the right CNN is considered a hotbed of 'Communism...well Socialism, which is an equally dirty word in some sections of the States
You can actually get a laugh from switching between the two over cornflakes to see folks getting hot and bothered over totally different realities.
It's a bit like watching Kane Cornes and getting upset by his bias.
There are a few of these charts around that indicate where the different media sit on the spectrum.
Here's an example of one (but I can't guarantee it's not biased) ;D
https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart
Because of some of his more outrageous behaviour Trump has intensified some opposition sentiment in many media outlets due to his dismissive approach.
On the other hand outlets like FOX have 'squirmed uncomfortably' at times because they have had to defend the indefensible.
Trump was particularly upset that it was FOX that gave away Arizona first.
With him gone some of the media may move back a little (not necessarily a lot) to a more moderate central position.
Some, of course, are too far gone.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - PaulP - 11-08-2020
Leaving aside the unique and hopefully never-to-be-repeated Trump phenomenon, I don't see enough difference between the two parties to expect much change, by which I mean genuine structural change that is needed if governments are there to actually serve the whole population, and not just a select few. it's not unreasonable to see them both as wings of the same party. They are both right wing parties, and as things stand presently, the Democrats are essentially moderate Republicans IMO.