(03-15-2021, 11:47 PM)PaulP date Wrote:What do they hope to achieve by a two week suspension?

(03-15-2021, 11:56 PM)Thryleon date Wrote:Yes but given how we've responded to the covid threat you would think we'd take the same precautions with the vaccine.

It's very hard to build confidence in something you have been told is perfectly safe until it isn't and countries start suspending its administration and you are still told its perfectly safe.

Meanwhile any other assertion is dismissed as a conspiracy theory yet here we are trying to believe one assertion over the other.

The only assertion I can make with some accuracy is that we are indeed not being told the whole truth and I'd be correct more often than not.

(03-15-2021, 11:47 PM)PaulP link Wrote:I can kind of see where LP is coming from. We don't know whether those decisions to suspend the AZ vaccine are purely political, somewhat political, how much heed they have paid to their in house scientists etc. Perhaps European scientists are more risk averse.

The numbers for blood clotting etc. seem very low, but it is far too early to be drawing solid conclusions. 

What do they hope to achieve by a two week suspension ?

(03-16-2021, 12:23 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:Dont think the South African scrapping of the vaccine had anything to do with politics, it failed testing with regards their own strain
and will cost them more having switched in the main to the Johnson/Johnson vaccine.

Quote:A small study of 2,000 people in South Africa has shown that the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine offers minimal protection against mild cases of the South African variant.

The study, which was based people of an average age of 31, shows that protection may be as low as 10%. The research wasn’t able to determine whether it protects against serious illness or hospitalisation, because this group of people were at low risk of serious illness. Other research suggests that the vaccine is still likely to reduce severe cases and deaths from the South African strain. More research is needed in this area.

Oxford University is working on adapting the vaccine to ensure that it protects against this variant, as well as other strains. They have said a ‘booster’ jab could be available by autumn 2021.

There are currently only a small number of cases of the South African variant, and governments have put measures in place to minimise community spread of this variant.

(03-15-2021, 11:54 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:He didn't lose you after his toddlers choking on carrots anology?

(03-16-2021, 12:32 AM)LP link Wrote:How did the replication trials of the Sth African result go, nobody it seems has been able to come out and support the Sth African result so far and several countries are testing the strain!

The official position is this;

(03-16-2021, 12:51 AM)PaulP link Wrote:https://theconversation.com/data-suggest-no-increased-risk-of-blood-clots-from-the-astrazeneca-vaccine-australia-shouldnt-pause-its-rollout-157137

Another article suggesting we should not pause the AZ rollout.