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Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - LP - 11-04-2020

(11-04-2020, 09:25 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:You just worry about the flow on effects down here in Australia with China really going hard at us now in a trade war, if Trump wins they are going to go ballistic...Putin must be loving all this chaos.
Putin might contribute to the chaos but his country is broke, nothing he does helps that, although his wealthy mates might profit.

His tactic is akin to slowing all the faster cars in a race so he can keep up in a Lada Niva!

Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - cookie2 - 11-04-2020

(11-04-2020, 09:02 PM)LP link Wrote:So it seems Trumps willingness to incite violence as a measure to keep Democratic voters away from the polls has failed, they just voted early and by post! :o

Maybe but postal voting apparently was up because of Covid. Don't know how that could favour one party over the other.

Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - DJC - 11-04-2020

What kind of democracy makes it hard for folk to vote, then doesn’t count all votes cast?

Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - cookie2 - 11-04-2020

(11-04-2020, 09:10 PM)DJC link Wrote:What kind of democracy makes it hard for folk to vote, then doesn’t count all votes cast?

Democracy?

Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - DJC - 11-04-2020

(11-04-2020, 09:02 PM)LP link Wrote:So it seems Trumps willingness to incite violence as a measure to keep Democratic voters away from the polls has failed, they just voted early and by post! :o

And voted often LP?  Wink

Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - LP - 11-04-2020

(11-04-2020, 09:09 PM)cookie2 date Wrote:Maybe but postal voting apparently was up because of Covid. Don't know how that could favour one party over the other.
More conservative voters tend to vote early, I believe it is a well known trend that is global.

The problem in the US, as I have heard it reported, is that each state runs it's own counting agenda, so Red states count the votes that favour an early Red lead, and Blue states count the votes that favour an early Blue lead. Neither side does anything at a Federal level to address it because they fear disadvantaging themselves, they want the flexibility to flip!

Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - PaulP - 11-04-2020

Humanity is facing its worst ever crisis, that will make covid look like nothing in the long term, and the only party that takes this issue even vaguely seriously, has up to now not received a single electoral vote. A big fat zero for the Greens in the US election.

Well done America.

Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - LP - 11-04-2020

(11-04-2020, 09:11 PM)DJC date Wrote:And voted often LP?  Wink
I'm not sure there is any clear evidence of voter fraud favouring one side or the other, but the volume of fraud is fairly consistent so the bigger the turn out the less relevant fraud becomes.

Anyway, it's a very very small percentage, and it doesn't justify ignoring millions of legitimate votes to capture a handful of fraudulent votes.

Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - LP - 11-04-2020

(11-04-2020, 09:20 PM)PaulP date Wrote:Humanity is facing its worst ever crisis, that will make covid look like nothing in the long term, and the only party that takes this issue even vaguely seriously, has up to now not received a single electoral vote. A big fat zero for the Greens in the US election.

Well done America.
Some regions still teach the Bible instead of evolution, and US kids think dinosaurs and men roamed the earth at the same time, and many Americans think Hawaii is a foreign country!

Of course, I'll offend some Americans with that post, but if you take offence do something about these issues in your own country before telling Europe or China what to do!

Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Lods - 11-04-2020

(11-04-2020, 09:09 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:Maybe but postal voting apparently was up because of Covid. Don't know how that could favour one party over the other.

Democrats would have been more likely to vote early by post.
They would have wanted to avoid the crowds on polling day.

Biden will win the vote.
There won't be enough problems with the postals  to cause that result to be overturned.
Trump has every right to challenge any issues, but at the end of the day even a loaded court system must apply the laws as set down.

My question is the same as it's been for sometime.
Why is this even a contest?
Trump has been a poor and divisive president who appears more concerned with personal promotion than the good of his nation.
Some of his comments and actions give the impression of someone with no idea.
He is rude and arrogant...often resorting to personal abuse of his opponents.
He comes across as an all around nasty fellow.

So why are we still sorting out results?
Why have only a handful of states flipped?
Why have 48% of the eligible population voted for him?
More than 67 million voters!
Trump's brought out more folks to vote for him than in 2016
They're not all right wing, nut job, deplorables.
Why in the midst of a global pandemic, which he seems by all measures to have handled pretty incompetently, is he still so close?
It would also seem that results in the Downticket races haven't been influenced to any great extent by Trump's tenure.

Trump is either an 'evil genius' or the opposition are pretty hopeless.
Doesn't bode well for their performance in government.