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Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Collingwood - Micky0 - 08-24-2022
We ran out of steam in the last quarter. Right in front of me live at the ground I could see it happening. A few crucial runs that we didn’t get close to.
People have forgotten - we had Kennedy, Hewitt and Walsh out of our midfield. We had a sore Saad and an equally sore Crippa after that knock with JSOS, running around. Add in a Weiters who hasn’t been the same since his injury, a ZWilliams who hasn’t played for how many months…?
Add in some wonky shit umpiring calls gifting them a goal and taking a certain one from us.
And it’s a miracle we were in the position we were in at 3/4 time.
The sting has gone for me of this game. We played our guts out under duress and just missed out on a finals spot. We were never going to make a dent come finals time, dragging injured players to the finish line. The last two games has given us what we need. Lessons to be learned. We have the players, just need to harden them up, keep them together and fit and healthy and go again next year with more depth, more experience, more hunger ??
Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Collingwood - laj - 08-25-2022
(08-24-2022, 12:38 PM)Micky0 link Wrote:We ran out of steam in the last quarter. Right in front of me live at the ground I could see it happening. A few crucial runs that we didn’t get close to.
People have forgotten - we had Kennedy, Hewitt and Walsh out of our midfield. We had a sore Saad and an equally sore Crippa after that knock with JSOS, running around. Add in a Weiters who hasn’t been the same since his injury, a ZWilliams who hasn’t played for how many months…?
Add in some wonky crap umpiring calls gifting them a goal and taking a certain one from us.
And it’s a miracle we were in the position we were in at 3/4 time.
The sting has gone for me of this game. We played our guts out under duress and just missed out on a finals spot. We were never going to make a dent come finals time, dragging injured players to the finish line. The last two games has given us what we need. Lessons to be learned. We have the players, just need to harden them up, keep them together and fit and healthy and go again next year with more depth, more experience, more hunger ??
Actually, not choke, go on in the last qtr, make the 8 and I reckon we beat Brisbane, who are awful in September, and we'd then likely play the Pies again. Could well have been a Prelim.
Unreal to think with just 6 min to go we led by 17pts.
Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Collingwood - laj - 08-25-2022
(08-24-2022, 11:49 AM)LoveNavy link Wrote:I read that too. I thought there were so called equalisation mechanisms in place. I think it worked by having a certain draw based on previous finishing position.
Anyways.. it's just another inequity the AFL deliver
3 different sides in the 8 to last year, Freo, Collingwood and Richmond, although you'd have a fair idea the latter, a triple premiership team, would make it. They do the draw based on the previous year, but it can change so much 12 months later.
Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Collingwood - NudeNut - 08-25-2022
(08-24-2022, 06:59 AM)Baggers link Wrote:I thought exactly the same thing, re Weiters, which was a worry. Pretty sure had Doc been down back he'd have been barking instructions.
Just another example of the waterfall effect injuries can have on a team. Train and play all year with Doc's as the defensive Captain only to have him up the ground after having to shuffle the side due to midfield injuries. Not and excuse, just an observation.
Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Collingwood - Gointocarlton - 08-25-2022
(08-25-2022, 07:45 AM)NudeNut link Wrote:Just another example of the waterfall effect injuries can have on a team. Train and play all year with Doc's as the defensive Captain only to have him up the ground after having to shuffle the side due to midfield injuries. Not and excuse, just an observation.And he did very well in the middle, such a versatile player. Having said that, the senior players MUST bark the instructions from anywhere on the ground, even the bench. MUST get better at that.
Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Collingwood - pew2 - 08-29-2022
we are kidding ourselves ,we lost to GC,ADL,SAINTS,with those players in the side and we just manage to hang on DOGS, PORT games,most teams play 20 mins of football and manage to beat us . Our supporters need to look at season not the last 2 games.
Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Collingwood - madbluboy - 08-30-2022
(08-29-2022, 04:36 AM)pew2 link Wrote:we are kidding ourselves ,we lost to GC,ADL,SAINTS,with those players in the side and we just manage to hang on DOGS, PORT games,most teams play 20 mins of football and manage to beat us . Our supporters need to look at season not the last 2 games.
The Adelaide game cost us, All sides drop easier games but you have to make it up with a scalp and we didn't. Tigers lost to North Melbourne in round 18 but beat the Lions two weeks later.
Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Collingwood - laj - 08-30-2022
(08-29-2022, 04:36 AM)pew2 link Wrote:we are kidding ourselves ,we lost to GC,ADL,SAINTS,with those players in the side and we just manage to hang on DOGS, PORT games,most teams play 20 mins of football and manage to beat us . Our supporters need to look at season not the last 2 games.
All sides lose stinkers. Swans, a red hot flag chance, lost to GC in Sydney but beat Geelong and Melbourne, which more than made up for it. In 1995 we lost to the Swans and Saints, so stinkers happen.
Saints were in the 8 at the time but the Adelaide loss was feeble. We lost to GC but that happens up there. We didn't make up for it enough although we did beat the Swans. We beat 4 sides in the 8, but should have beaten 6, meaning Collingwood (twice) and Melbourne last 2 games but choked it up at the wrong time.
Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Collingwood - Gointocarlton - 08-30-2022
(08-30-2022, 02:26 AM)laj link Wrote:All sides lose stinkers. Swans, a red hot flag chance, lost to GC in Sydney but beat Geelong and Melbourne, which more than made up for it. In 1995 we lost to the Swans and Saints, so stinkers happen.None of the above were in the 8 for 23 weeks and missed finals. No matter how you twist it and turn it, its one of the all time greatest chokes and we need to fix it in 2023 or else the stench will linger forever.
Saints were in the 8 at the time but the Adelaide loss was feeble. We lost to GC but that happens up there. We didn't make up for it enough although we did beat the Swans. We beat 4 sides in the 8, but should have beaten 6, meaning Collingwood (twice) and Melbourne last 2 games but choked it up at the wrong time.
Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Collingwood - Thryleon - 08-30-2022
(08-30-2022, 09:54 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:None of the above were in the 8 for 23 weeks and missed finals. No matter how you twist it and turn it, its one of the all time greatest chokes and we need to fix it in 2023 or else the stench will linger forever.
Without over reacting, we could have fixed this multiple ways.
1. And 2. Hold on to win last two rounds.
3. Beat Adelaide instead of sleeping.
4. Concede less goals in our losses.
5. Win by bigger margins.
6. Playing more 4 quarter efforts.
We missed out by .6 of a percent.
Now is not the time to call it the greatest choke of all times. Collingwood own that mantle in grand finals.