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Re: Post Game Permutation: AFL Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle - LP - 08-18-2020
(08-18-2020, 08:12 AM)kruddler date Wrote:The above was how the saints used him.Didn't I read one of his early interviews that stated one of the reasons for coming to us was because the Aints pigeon-holed him as a small defender(HBF/BP) and he wanted to spend more time forward?
We are just copying them.
Re: Post Game Permutation: AFL Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle - Gointocarlton - 08-18-2020
(08-18-2020, 10:29 AM)LP link Wrote:Didn't I read one of his early interviews that stated one of the reasons for coming to us was because the Aints pigeon-holed him as a small defender(HBF/BP) and he wanted to spend more time forward?Reckon I read that also.
Re: Post Game Permutation: AFL Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle - DJC - 08-18-2020
(08-18-2020, 10:42 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Reckon I read that also.
Me too!
Newnes didn’t want to be a HBF.
Re: Post Game Permutation: AFL Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle - kruddler - 08-18-2020
(08-18-2020, 10:29 AM)LP link Wrote:Didn't I read one of his early interviews that stated one of the reasons for coming to us was because the Aints pigeon-holed him as a small defender(HBF/BP) and he wanted to spend more time forward?
They moved him forward....he got injured....they tried to 'rebadge him' because they had enough forwards and he thought it best to reinvigorate his career elsewhere. (Think Laidler)
Re: Post Game Permutation: AFL Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle - LP - 08-18-2020
(08-18-2020, 11:38 AM)kruddler date Wrote:They moved him forward....he got injured....they tried to 'rebadge him' because they had enough forwards and he thought it best to reinvigorate his career elsewhere. (Think Laidler)He started off as a HBF, he was considered too small/light to be a midfielder alongside Montagna, Geary, Hayes, Fisher, etc., etc.., so they played him in a Simmo type role. Until about 2016 they split his time between the HBF and the Wing, it was 2017 when they put him in the leadership group that he got his desire to run regularly in the midfield. But he was still squarely known by Aints fans as a wingman until the day he left!
Right up to the point he requested a trade it was reported that "Wingman Jack Newnes had been left out of the 2020 leadership group!"
Re: Post Game Permutation: AFL Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle - kruddler - 08-18-2020
(08-18-2020, 11:59 AM)LP link Wrote:He started off as a HBF, he was considered too small/light to be a midfielder alongside Montagna, Geary, Hayes, Fisher, etc., etc.., so they played him in a Simmo type role. Until about 2016 they split his time between the HBF and the Wing, it was 2017 when they put him in the leadership group that he got his desire to run regularly in the midfield. But he was still squarely known by Aints fans as a wingman until the day he left!
Right up to the point he requested a trade it was reported that "Wingman Jack Newnes had been left out of the 2020 leadership group!"
All of that is true, but there is more to that.
Look at his stats..
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/J/Jack_Newnes.html
Have a look at averages and goals kicked.
Not the difference between 2017 and 2018.
He got injured in the pre-season. As a result, his fitness was not up to scratch, so he spent more time forward than in the midfield.
His disposals dropped, his goals went up.
The next year was when he started getting moved around and when things went sour. He thought he'd proven that despite not being fit, he proved he could play up forward. Saints wanted otherwise. So he left.