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Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn - madbluboy - 04-28-2019

(04-28-2019, 10:11 PM)DJC link Wrote:Didn’t Kreuzer spend the last quarter on the bench?

Probably the last 10 or 15 minutes.


Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn - LP - 04-28-2019

(04-28-2019, 10:08 PM)PaulP link Wrote:I agree. He was ok. But I still prefer Krooz plus another ruck. I don't think Philips is as bad away from stoppages and bounces as some make out.

I just think they can use Levi in the ruck more, especially forward of the center, perhaps leave SpecialK behind the footy as another defacto tall defender and let Jones run and intercept more, tell SpecialK not to enter the F50. What you do not want is Levi rucking on the last line of defence.

The balance between Marchbank, Jones, Weitering doesn't look right, and Marchbank isn't reliable by foot. They have the right mix but the wrong implementation, it should be Weitering kicking the ball far more than Jones or Marchbank. In fact in the 3rd I think Weitering could easily have had a shot from outside F50 if he was switched onto to it, but he left languishing deep and develops a negative mentality.


Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn - Jeffy38 - 04-28-2019

(04-28-2019, 12:14 PM)flyboy77 link Wrote:No, I'm using Paul's own words.

(and no, no confusion - you reckon Howe was going H2H today?)

Just covered on SEN, they agreed it was the right call not to tag o’meara - we were 6 goals up at half time. The coaching staff obviously made a call that they would stick with what got them playing so well in the first place.  You’d be foolish to think they ‘missed’ it or were blind to his influence but they decided to go another way. That’s why they are paid the big bucks and we aren’t.

That said, you live and die by the sword and I’ve got no doubt this decision will be reviewed in the wrap up.


Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn - Jeffy38 - 04-28-2019

(04-28-2019, 08:48 PM)PaulP link Wrote:It's not the coaching, it's not the game plan, it's not the match day tactics, it's not the structures, it's not the tagging.

When you're getting flogged by 10 goals every other week, then yes, by all means question the coach, structures etc. If not for a few skill errors, a few brain fades, a few stray kicks, we get the 4 points yesterday.

Can someone tell me how many touches O'Meara had at 1/2 time ?

30


Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn - LP - 04-28-2019

Kids have to suffer loss before they can win, what is happening is a consequence of turning over so much of the list over the last few years.

Our problem is compounded by the runner bans, we can't tell them to slow down, and yesterday under pressure they did the exact opposite and turned it over by panicking.


Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn - PaulP - 04-28-2019

(04-28-2019, 10:13 PM)LP link Wrote:I just think they can use Levi in the ruck more, perhaps leave SpecialK behind the footy as another defacto tall defender and let Jones run and intercept more, tell SpecialK not to enter the F50.

..............

For mine, Krooz is arguably (along with Cripps) the most effective player we have. Whatever it takes to maximise his effectiveness and longevity, Im fine with that. If that means Casboult, that's ok. If it means a 2nd ruck, I'm ok with that too.

I just don't feel Cas is much of a ruckman. It feels sometimes like we have already lost the tap out and clearance.


Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn - PaulP - 04-28-2019

(04-28-2019, 10:13 PM)Jeffy38 link Wrote:Just covered on SEN, they agreed it was the right call not to tag o’meara - we were 6 goals up at half time. The coaching staff obviously made a call that they would stick with what got them playing so well in the first place.  You’d be foolish to think they ‘missed’ it or were blind to his influence but they decided to go another way. That’s why they are paid the big bucks and we aren’t.

That said, you live and die by the sword and I’ve got no doubt this decision will be reviewed in the wrap up.

Agree with all that Jeffy. Nice post. Learning for all. I'm sure even Clarkson is still learning.


Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn - LP - 04-28-2019

(04-28-2019, 10:18 PM)PaulP link Wrote:For mine, Krooz is arguably (along with Cripps) the most effective player we have. Whatever it takes to maximise his effectiveness and longevity, Im fine with that. If that means Casboult, that's ok. If it means a 2nd ruck, I'm ok with that too.

I just don't feel Cas is much of a ruckman. It feels sometimes like we have already lost the tap out and clearance.

He needs to be coached to ignore the tap and use his strength and speed, he's the strongest player in our club but he doesn't use it in the ruck. I'd be asking him to hurt some opponents with tackles, giving away free kicks from aggressive tackles will be his measure of success. When the umpire throws the ball up Levi's first thought should be tackle after jumping. That eventually has an impact on opponents, it's the Mumford and McEvoy way!


Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn - PaulP - 04-28-2019

(04-28-2019, 10:14 PM)Jeffy38 link Wrote:30

Wow. Really ? Thanks for that. That means only 12 after 1/2 time.

Translation ? His team mates woke up and thought maybe they should help out.

Credit where it's due though. He's a very neat player and played very well.


Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn - PaulP - 04-28-2019

(04-28-2019, 10:21 PM)LP link Wrote:He needs to be coached to ignore the tap and use his strength and speed, he's the strongest player in our club but he doesn't use it in the ruck. I'd be asking him to hurt some opponents with tackles, giving away free kicks from aggressive tackles will be his measure of success. When the umpire throws the ball up Levi's first thought should be tackle after jumping. That eventually has an impact on opponents, it's the Mumford and McEvoy way!

Folks on here has been asking for this since forever.