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Re: 2017 Rd 1 Post Game Analysis: Carlton vs Richmond - PaulP - 03-25-2017
(03-25-2017, 02:22 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Was it the Hawks that coined the phrase "unsociable footy"?
Not sure if it came from them directly, or from a journo in reference to them.
Goes to show you the power of marketing - we won't call it thuggish, take-out-the-man footy, we'll call it unsociable - and the media, who clearly love having a new phrase to bandy about, lapped it up.
Certainly gets more airplay than Lethal's "if it bleeds, you can kill it" nonsense.
Re: 2017 Rd 1 Post Game Analysis: Carlton vs Richmond - ElwoodBlues1 - 03-25-2017
(03-24-2017, 10:59 AM)LP link Wrote:That's very disappointing EB1, I'd always thought you were without such biases, a person who calls a spade a spade.
Sorry to disappoint LP and I do think I am a fair individual who does call a spade a spade etc....but with anything in life the greater the reward
the greater the responsibility in most cases..
I'm not a Thomas fan as you know but you would also see I didnt bag him out after the game either, there were others worse and some better.
Yep he he got a rough deal on that holding the ball and his disposal compared to others like Simon White was much better...did he give effort, yes I think he did.
Did he give us 750k's worth of value..no...but I preferred to concentrate on others who I felt gave less effort...
Re: 2017 Rd 1 Post Game Analysis: Carlton vs Richmond - kruddler - 03-25-2017
(03-25-2017, 01:12 AM)LP link Wrote:Our development coaches are dumb.
Dusty's fend off is dead easy to deal with. You just tell the kids to forget the ball and sling him as hard as they can by his arm. You grab his wrist and drive your other hand into his elbow. Eventually he will either wreck his elbow, his shoulder, or he will become wary of the consequences which causes a hesitation in his actions.
How easy you reckon it is to grab a bloke who is oiled up, or at the very list covered in sweat. Like catching a greased up pig.
Re: 2017 Rd 1 Post Game Analysis: Carlton vs Richmond - PaulP - 03-25-2017
(03-25-2017, 05:03 AM)kruddler link Wrote:How easy you reckon it is to grab a bloke who is oiled up, or at the very list covered in sweat. Like catching a greased up pig.
I think the issue people on here are having is that none of our players even tried - no one is questioning that's he's a hard man to bring down, oil or no oil.
Re: 2017 Rd 1 Post Game Analysis: Carlton vs Richmond - ElwoodBlues1 - 03-25-2017
(03-25-2017, 05:03 AM)kruddler link Wrote:How easy you reckon it is to grab a bloke who is oiled up, or at the very list covered in sweat. Like catching a greased up pig.
Our blokes ran away from Dusty or tried to shove the responsibility onto another player, they were scared to touch him, even Casboult didnt want anything to do with him when there was push and shove going on.
Its embarrassing for the club when one player has intimidated your team, we are not a physical team and will be exploited until either our senior players standup, or our young blokes grow up and are taught to tackle and fly the flag for their mates. The club may need to recruit some players who are prepared to be more physical and contest with the likes of Dusty better and make tackles stick....Dochertys attempt for example when he was" dont argued" wasnt good enough unlike Wright who hung on for dear life when he dragged the bigger Rance down....
Re: 2017 Rd 1 Post Game Analysis: Carlton vs Richmond - shawny - 03-25-2017
Martin does it every week.
All this Martin crap is going too far. Yes he wasn't tagged but does anyone appreciate how bloody good he is!
I mean all this talk like we are scared to tackle him....we don't want to tackle him. I mean seriously?
He is an elite player who is abnormally strong through the core. We have an undersized mid field group and played 6 new players and had lots of under 21 year old. What do you expect.
He has perfected a technique that the majority of opponents can't deal with hence why he uses it every week. But posters here esay get a big bodied midfielder and it's problem solved. Sorry to burst your bubble but big bodied midfielder don't fix every problem.
Play the game again next week and get ready for the same result.
Sometimes the opposition is just better. Get used to it. We are rebuilding after all.
Re: 2017 Rd 1 Post Game Analysis: Carlton vs Richmond - JonDorotich - 03-25-2017
Can somebody explain why we passed on Xavier Richards during trade week?
Re: 2017 Rd 1 Post Game Analysis: Carlton vs Richmond - ElwoodBlues1 - 03-25-2017
(03-25-2017, 06:46 AM)shawny link Wrote:Martin does it every week.
All this Martin crap is going too far. Yes he wasn't tagged but does anyone appreciate how bloody good he is!
I mean all this talk like we are scared to tackle him....we don't want to tackle him. I mean seriously?
He is an elite player who is abnormally strong through the core. We have an undersized mid field group and played 6 new players and had lots of under 21 year old. What do you expect.
He has perfected a technique that the majority of opponents can't deal with hence why he uses it every week. But posters here esay get a big bodied midfielder and it's problem solved. Sorry to burst your bubble but big bodied midfielder don't fix every problem.
Play the game again next week and get ready for the same result.
Sometimes the opposition is just better. Get used to it. We are rebuilding after all.
If you watched how we approached him you would see our players tried to corral rather than tackle him, River Rat observed Gibbs lineup near Martin then duck shoved the job onto a younger player. when he should have taken the job on.
There was some push and shove with Vlastuin I think it was and our blokes all came in then left real quick when Martin arrived including Casboult...how many more examples do you need?
I cant think of one successful tackle being laid on Martin....not one....we have an undersized mid field....why?......Richmond are a non finals team and have been for a while which means the good tams are dealing with and tackling Martin fine...as Leigh Matthews said when he coached Brisbane...if it bleeds you can kill it".....
What example does it set to younger players when some senior players dont want to put it on the line.....would Luke Hodge or Jordan Lewis back off, or a Josh Kennedy(swans), or Libba..?
Opposition better???.....get used to it.???...been doing that since 1995, how about the club telling the players to harden the f#$k up and dont embarrass the Navy Blue jumper ....young blokes and Matt Wright excused..
Re: 2017 Rd 1 Post Game Analysis: Carlton vs Richmond - Spanner_smf2_import2 - 03-25-2017
Don't know about everyone else, but I for one am getting pretty sick of knowing our season is over by the end of the first game. In this case it was over by mid way through the first quarter.
I'm not expecting to win the premiership, but for fu*ks sake, I wish this f*cking football club would give me something to get excited about. Just one passage of play that blows me away will do. Jesus, is that too much to ask?
All I see is fumbling, missed targets (most are easy 2-3 metre handballs and 15 metre kicks) and an inability to separate from a defender to give our players up field an option. When was the last time you saw any forward lead up and have a couple of metres on a defender?
I am at a loss how half our players managed to get to this level. Most I'm sure would stuggle at VFL level with the skills they display.
Oh btw, Gibbs and Murphy are a joke. Absolute travesty that they were picked at number one in the draft. I wish they'd both just f*ck off from the club. We'd be in a much better position without them. Zero leadership, zero heart and zero everything. Both a total waste of space, both on the list and cap space, of which they take too much of, for very little return.
Re: 2017 Rd 1 Post Game Analysis: Carlton vs Richmond - madbluboy - 03-25-2017
Hear Hear Spanner!!!