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Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - cookie2 - 10-27-2020
(10-27-2020, 03:39 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Can see George singing to Trump...."Do you really want to hurt me Trumpy, do you really want to see me cry"....
To which the Donald would reply, "You're fired!"
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Mav - 10-27-2020
Just in case there are any out there who haven’t delved into this Trump rabbit-hole:
Biden was talking to George Lopez, an actor & comedian, in a video event. As he was making a comment, he referenced George as you do in conversation before slamming Trump by name. So the Trump campaign edited out George Lopez from the Zoom-type video and made sure there was no lead up from Lopez. Then the Trump campaign suggested Biden had a memory lapse and seemed to think George Bush is the President. Shameful stuff. Even worse that Fox News & NBC fell for it, though they’ve now apologised for broadcasting it without checking for context.
Sadly, Trump’s campaign has chosen to edit videos dishonestly as a go-to weapon. Plenty of examples: just google it.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - LP - 10-27-2020
(10-27-2020, 03:49 AM)cookie2 date Wrote:To which the Donald would reply, "You're fired!"No, no, that's the old Donald.
We've a new restrained Donald now, who's caring and sharing, sharing COVID, sharing disinformation, sharing all sorts of crap while caring stuff all! The least racist person in the room, he hates everybody equally, the only one he really likes is in the mirror! ;D
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - LP - 10-27-2020
(10-27-2020, 03:52 AM)Mav date Wrote:Even worse that Fox News & NBC fell for it, though they’ve now apologised for broadcasting it without checking for context.I doubt that was a mistake.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - LP - 10-28-2020
[member=122]Mav[/member], the US is on course for the biggest voter turn out in 120 years, who benefits Trump or Biden?
(10-27-2020, 03:52 AM)Mav date Wrote:Sadly, Trump’s campaign has chosen to edit videos dishonestly as a go-to weapon. Plenty of examples: just google it.I know it makes no difference, but both our Dots and CheatsFC TV news broadcasts ran the dodgy video as part of last nights news, the dodgy nature of the video edit was self evident. Since when does a Zoom digital meeting broadcast suffer old fashioned analogue static or electrical storm interference? You don't get a lightning bolt flash and snowy picture on digital, it was a phone video of an edited digital video, made to look like it was poor quality analogue TV!
Neither posted a correction, I think that is good news for Trump.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Mav - 10-28-2020
It’s really difficult for pollsters in the USA to figure out what the early vote means, let alone someone like me thousands of kilometres away. All I can do is regurgitate bits of what I’ve read or heard.
The first issue is whether the total vote will really increase. The total of votes cast already exceeds votes cast before the 2016 election but this may just mean voters who would normally vote in person have voted early because of the pandemic and the greater availability of mail-in voting.
The next issue is whether Trump’s war on mail-in voting has dissuaded his base from voting early. In Florida and another State, the GOP was alarmed that he was undermining their successful attempts to persuade a Republican voters to vote by mail. Ironically, Trump had to tell voters in those 2 States that voting by mail was fantastic! But if Democrats vote early and GOP voters vote mostly on Election Day, this won’t change the final voting tallies anyway. Bear in mind that Trump only seems to attack mail-in voting, not in-person early voting or absentee voting (despite the latter being mail-in voting!)
It would be tempting to say the large early vote must mostly be Democrat but it’s hard to say. Not all States reveal the registered party affiliation of the early voters but the ones that do show that 48% of them are registered Democrats while registered GOP voters make up 29.1% of early voters. While this is encouraging for the Democrats, remember that registered Democrats can vote for Trump and registered Republicans can vote for Biden. There’d be quite a few voters who have switched parties over time without changing their details. Then you have the almost 23% whose affiliation isn’t known.
Another area of uncertainty is how Biden and Trump are able to register voters so they can vote and how able they are to chase them up to make sure they do. Trump has been organising rallies in swing states while Biden has preferred video events. This advantages Trump as his workers record the information of rally attendees and use that to register them and nag them to vote. They also do this with merhandise sales. Trump’s volunteers are also more active in door-to-door canvassing than Biden’s given Biden’s concerns about Covid. There have been reports in Florida of the GOP having a big edge in new registrations in the Miami-Dade region.
Then there’s the question of how successful Trump will be in suppressing the votes of Democrats. How many mail-in votes will be rejected for one reason or another? How many Biden voters will be turned away from voting booths because the GOP has managed to kick them off the voting rolls? How long will voters in urban areas have to queue to vote on Election Day? Will armed militia men succeed in dissuading black voters from voting?
In other words, who the hell knows? I’ll just wait until the votes are tallied. I’d have better luck figuring out who’ll win next week’s NFL matches than working out who’ll win the election based on early voting trends.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Mav - 10-28-2020
Here’s a hidden camera reveal of Republican strategists giving Rudy & Donnie some advice about the Hunter Biden “scandal”:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?noapp=1&v=Pubd-spHN-0
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - flyboy77 - 10-29-2020
Or you could read the Senate report.....
https://www.finance.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/HSGAC%20-%20Finance%20Joint%20Report%202020.09.23.pdf
page 65 on....
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Mav - 10-29-2020
Hmmm ... I’d love to spend my time wading through a Republican-controlled Committee’s report (knowing that Lindsay Graham and his colleagues would never act as Trump’s henchmen). But maybe you can summarise it for me so I can spend my time doing more important things such as picking the lint from my belly-button. By the way, how many Americans will read it? I’d imagine not many bothered to read the Mueller report, allowing Barr to paint it as exonerating Trump.
You’re falling into the trap: try as you might, you’re not going to make Fetch happen, no matter how hard you try. With only 6 days to go, it ain’t going to break into the mainstream media. A lot of low-information voters will cast their votes without even knowing about this so-called scandal. And even if they’re aware that there’s some issue with Hunter Biden, they won’t think that taints Joe Biden (which is the same conclusion reasonable people who follow the story will reach anyway). Only the right-wing echo chamber still thinks it’s a thing ;D
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - PaulP - 10-29-2020
https://theconversation.com/who-exactly-is-trumps-base-why-white-working-class-voters-could-be-key-to-the-us-election-147267
Perhaps only of peripheral interest.