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Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Mav - 10-15-2020
Then you wait for proof. Just in case it turns out not to be true.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - cookie2 - 10-15-2020
Mav maybe you should consider taking some of your own advice mate. I understand that this may well be an inconvenient truth for you and you seem to be getting angry. I think we have reached the point of tit for tat so let's now see how events actually pan out.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Mav - 10-15-2020
Can't say I'm angry. That's the great thing about debating the US election on an Australian football site. We aren't going to influence the result any more than we'll influence the result of a footy game we discuss. If this were a site of influence and I had a desire to influence those who read the site, I would have quickly dismissed the report and moved on to avoid giving the story oxygen. That's why Trump and GOP are so angry at Facebook & Twitter: they've shut the story down and won't give it oxygen.
Strange you'd say to me it's tit-for-tat so we should just wait to see what happens. Seems like a case of 'Do what I say, not what I do' given that you could have just waited to see what happened rather than posting that!
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - DJC - 10-15-2020
(10-15-2020, 01:03 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:No I did not sleep through it, hardly possible with coverage it got. But you seem to be only concerned with him and not worried that his potential successor and his son may well also have been on that particular gravy train. This is not exactly new, been around since well before Trump took office. Imo it bears further investigation.
It’s worth having a look at the report into the Bidens released by Republican-led Senate committees late last month. While the release of the report was clearly politically motivated, the committees were unable to find evidence of wrong-doing by Joe Biden but concluded that Hunter’s role in the Ukraine represented a potential conflict of interest for the Obama administration (one that was acknowledged and dealt with).
The report didn’t support the POTUS’s claims about Biden.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - cookie2 - 10-15-2020
(10-15-2020, 04:21 AM)Mav link Wrote:Can't say I'm angry. That's the great thing about debating the US election on an Australian football site. We aren't going to influence the result any more than we'll influence the result of a footy game we discuss. If this were a site of influence and I had a desire to influence those who read the site, I would have quickly dismissed the report and moved on to avoid giving the story oxygen. That's why Trump and GOP are so angry at Facebook & Twitter: they've shut the story down and won't give it oxygen.
Strange you'd say to me it's tit-for-tat so we should just wait to see what happens. Seems like a case of 'Do what I say, not what I do' given that you could have just waited to see what happened rather than posting that!
Not really, this is a discussion forum where we often discuss possibilities before the final outcome is known. You yourself show incredible creativity in these matters. Anyway, enjoy the rest of your day.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - cookie2 - 10-15-2020
(10-15-2020, 04:22 AM)DJC link Wrote:It’s worth having a look at the report into the Bidens released by Republican-led Senate committees late last month. While the release of the report was clearly politically motivated, the committees were unable to find evidence of wrong-doing by Joe Biden but concluded that Hunter’s role in the Ukraine represented a potential conflict of interest for the Obama administration (one that was acknowledged and dealt with).
The report didn’t support the POTUS’s claims about Biden.
Sure, but new evidence has apparently surfaced since then which could change all of that - that's what prompted this discussion.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Mav - 10-15-2020
The story suggests the laptop was seized in December 2019 and a copy of a hard drive was obtained by Guiliani soon after that. And yet it’s new evidence which surfaced after the report was released last month. Hmmm ... something’s fishy with that timeline.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - LP - 10-15-2020
(10-15-2020, 03:15 AM)tonyo date Wrote:If the Republicans thought that calling Biden a Martian would win them the election, they would produce NASA documents proving there was life there......Yes, no facts required in the USA, just claim whatever you like!
It's not about which side has dirty laundry - let's face it, they both have.... it's about publicising (not proving) that the other guy's laundry is dirtier....
The US media keep telling us they are the A-Grade Gold Standard of democracy and freedom of the press, but it seems they have confused freedom of the press with freedom of the creative arts, free to make stuff up! ;D
Political parties cannot make use of this stuff without the media giving them oxygen!
The media report that the politicians are being played by nefarious characters, but it is really the media that is being played!
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Mav - 10-15-2020
I wouldn’t say media. The right wing echo chamber is involved but the media is treating it sceptically.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - tonyo - 10-15-2020
(10-15-2020, 05:08 AM)Mav link Wrote:I wouldn’t say media. The right wing echo chamber is involved but the media is treating it sceptically.
The press are known as a MEDIUM because they are never rare, and nor are they well done......