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Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - LP - 09-09-2024
(09-09-2024, 02:33 AM)PaulP date Wrote:https://www.afl.com.au/video/1217228/aaa-worrying-vision-exposes-skipper-confusing-blues-call?videoId=1217228&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1725843945001Agreed with some of the SF commentary.
For those interested, Matthew Lloyd's comments - a little on the game, selections and list. From about the 13m mark.
Don't agree with the Midfield comments, Lloyd said the mix isn't quite right, and he stated the same about the Dogs, who with us are basically one of the most dominant Midfields in the AFL competition for the bulk of this season.
Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - Gointocarlton - 09-09-2024
(09-09-2024, 02:05 AM)ratlice link Wrote:The cue was in the rack in the 2nd half, lets be honest about it. Even Fagan said, we were nover going to win that game.Yes Fagan would say that, the reality is when we started the run of 11 goals, his team (as usual) started to panic and made mistakes. They are mentally weak and will not progress passed next week. Another fail for a very talented team.
Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - Gointocarlton - 09-09-2024
(09-08-2024, 11:32 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:Curnow - Champion, best forward in the AFLAll in Voss's best, only Cincotta was availably this week and wasnt played. That one I dont understand.
Owies - Best small forward
Boyd - Was our designated kicker earlier this year.
Fogarty - Pressure
Cincotta - Pressure
Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - LP - 09-09-2024
It's interesting listening to various media today, banging on about our SFs and the Sub selection, neither of which had any bearing on the first 50 minutes of the game. It's low brow cheap click bait made for ratings, fed from the vitriol being spread by silly fans and trolls on social media.
The mainstream media are supposed to report from an expert base, not just behave as an echo chamber for nuffies!
Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - Baggers - 09-09-2024
(09-09-2024, 03:04 AM)LP link Wrote:Agreed with some of the SF commentary.
Don't agree with the Midfield comments, Lloyd said the mix isn't quite right, and he stated the same about the Dogs, who with us are basically one of the most dominant Midfields in the AFL competition for the bulk of this season.
Sorry, Spotted One, as many notable footy commentators noted, we're too one paced in the midfield and lack dynamic spread. Hopefully they realise that Cinc is a mid with genuine foot speed and should spend the preseason training as such. Point is, we might be very good, but we can be much better... and need to be.
Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - Baggers - 09-09-2024
(09-09-2024, 03:21 AM)LP link Wrote:It's interesting listening to various media today, banging on about our SFs and the Sub selection, neither of which had any bearing on the first 50 minutes of the game. It's low brow cheap click bait made for ratings, fed from the vitriol being spread by silly fans and trolls on social media.
The mainstream media are supposed to report from an expert base, not just behave as an echo chamber for nuffies!
Not only are many of them right, they're actually stating the bloomin' obvious! What compounds the blatant errors is that after selection many noted the baffling ins and outs. And were proven correct... no hindsight cleverness, concerns over our SFs were voiced after selection and have been for much of the season, with the exception of Owies.
Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - ElwoodBlues1 - 09-09-2024
(09-09-2024, 03:45 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Sorry, Spotted One, as many notable footy commentators noted, we're too one paced in the midfield and lack dynamic spread. Hopefully they realise that Cinc is a mid with genuine foot speed and should spend the preseason training as such. Point is, we might be very good, but we can be much better... and need to be.We are also a poor kicking midfield, Cincotta is a better kick than most of the other mids we have too, not playing him was another blunder rivalling subbing Kennedy and previously dropping Hewett/Kennedy when we needed wins in crucial games.
Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - ElwoodBlues1 - 09-09-2024
(09-09-2024, 03:02 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Nafan can slam all he likes, he doesn't know the tactical reasoning for it, only the coaching team does. Again, things were done that seem/ed poor but there was logic behind them at the time, they didnt work.I think the tactical reasoning is the point and the logic questionable, as was subbing Kennedy, not playing Cincotta, dropping Hewett and Kennedy in previous games...its just mistake after mistake as was recruiting Fantasia.
Prepared to cut him some slack on TDK as he obviously couldnt play a full game and in previous games has done well late in games so I could at least get the logic but the others are just fails imo and if you take unfit/underdone players into finals then the coach has to be responsible. I dont want to hear "we have to get better" every press conference either, thats on a par with I can see "green shoots" .
We let Zorko and Neale run around unmanned when every blind man and his dog knows Neale has to have a proper minder and a fit one if you are to beat Brisbane......
Woeful MC and coaching performance and that includes Hansen, Hamill etc as well.........we have Cook and Sayers in their last seasons next season and when Cook goes I worry where we are heading on and off the field.
Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - Thryleon - 09-09-2024
I can answer the one about the arousal levels.
We suffered as much from a lack of belief as anything else. Brisbane could be supremely confident and played like it. They got the perfect start with a speculative shot coming off for a goal too. That kick by rayner had no business going in but it did. The ball bounced their way early a few times.
On the flipside we made a few uncharacteristic errors at our strongest parts. Very deflating when your a graders who need to fire make some errors. Weitering out on the full (wind a factor) cripps and Walsh turning it over.
The boys lacked belief and it showed. When the game slipped away from us, it was amazing to see the pressure go off the shoulders and the lift in output from some.
The weight of expectation and the dent in confidence can perhaps explain things a lot. We point back to the gws game but that game cooked our season multiple ways. Not just injury I reckon it hurt belief which is what our boys struggle with the most.
Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - pew2 - 09-09-2024
we lack spread and speed in midfield and from Defence it has been our problem for years , i made a comment during the year this side needs 3 chris yarran (good one)