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Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane - kruddler - 09-03-2024
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1207181/been-there-done-that-how-contenders-rank-for-finals-experience
Quote:Players with finals experience
Carlton - 29
Sydney - 28
Brisbane - 27
Port Adelaide - 26
Greater Western Sydney - 26
Western Bulldogs - 24
Geelong - 23
Hawthorn - 13
Would not have picked us as having the most finals players, but it makes sense since last year we were working through a few injuries during our finals series.....plus the addition of Fantasia.
Obvoiusly, overall they have played a lot less games than most of the other teams, but given the crowds we played in front of last year (and even this year H+A). There wouldn't be too many players that have experienced that kind of finals atmosphere like we have.
Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane - pew2 - 09-03-2024
voss and co have to come up with different game plan especially f50 entry like i have been saying for 2 yrs we need to change the LONG f.... BOMB to our fwds that is our downfall ,opposition just set up and away they go
Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane - laj - 09-03-2024
(09-03-2024, 03:59 AM)DJC link Wrote:If Doc does a knee again, it’s equally likely to be at training as it is to be during a game.Alot more stress on it during a game, even more so a final. I didn't want him in until next year. He's done 3 knees already, just 6 months since the last one, so he can be a little prone to them, hasn't played in 6 months, then coming in for a big final. Surely we can all see the risk.
The graft is not going to get any stronger or weaker and his quadriceps and hamstrings will be as strong as they can get.
Fingers crossed though ?
Wouldn't be like Carlton to rush blokes back only for repeat injuries this year, surely.
Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane - laj - 09-03-2024
(09-03-2024, 05:45 AM)pew2 link Wrote:voss and co have to come up with different game plan especially f50 entry like i have been saying for 2 yrs we need to change the LONG f.... BOMB to our fwds that is our downfall ,opposition just set up and away they go
No coach has that plan. You are forced into it by not being able to run the ball in deep enough. Can be a lack of run by us, or opposition pressure, or both.
Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane - pinot - 09-03-2024
You can kick the ball long quickly to one on ones you have to back in our talls to at least bring it to ground.
Opposition tend to run back and flood that 60-35 meter range to stop easy forward entries. Sometimes you just have to kick it long.
Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane - Gointocarlton - 09-03-2024
Doc has been selected because he is ready to go. Even if he starts as the sub, he has to be able to play 4 qtrs as someone could get injured at the opening bounce (pray that's not the case). As I have said, with players like Doc you back in every day of the week. They would not have selected him if he wasn't ready or couldn't make us better.
Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane - DJC - 09-03-2024
(09-03-2024, 05:45 AM)pew2 link Wrote:voss and co have to come up with different game plan especially f50 entry like i have been saying for 2 yrs we need to change the LONG f.... BOMB to our fwds that is our downfall ,opposition just set up and away they go
Every team in the competition kicks long bombs to their forwards. When you’ve got two of the best marks in your forward line, you’d be crazy not to kick the ball to their advantage.
Remember the Acres mark and goal to beat Melbourne? If Doc hadn’t bombed the ball in we would have lost the game.
Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane - DJC - 09-03-2024
(09-03-2024, 06:26 AM)laj link Wrote:Alot more stress on it during a game, even more so a final. I didn't want him in until next year. He's done 3 knees already, just 6 months since the last one, so he can be a little prone to them, hasn't played in 6 months, then coming in for a big final. Surely we can all see the risk.
Wouldn't be like Carlton to rush blokes back only for repeat injuries this year, surely.
I was more worried about him getting injured when his teammates set on him in the pool.
If Doc’s rehab has been as thorough and carefully planned as reported, he’ll be as good to go now as he would be next season. He is prone to ACLs and there’s nothing you can do about that. He could tear it again slipping on wet tiles or putting the bins out.
Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane - laj - 09-03-2024
(09-03-2024, 08:12 AM)DJC link Wrote:I was more worried about him getting injured when his teammates set on him in the pool.More likely to do it under the stress of a big final where there is constant twisting and turning under real pressure. Never mind rationalising it. It'd also likely be alot stronger round 1 next year
If Doc’s rehab has been as thorough and carefully planned as reported, he’ll be as good to go now as he would be next season. He is prone to ACLs and there’s nothing you can do about that. He could tear it again slipping on wet tiles or putting the bins out.
We have stuffed everything injury-wise, bringing blokes back on for them to re-injure themselves on multiple occasions. So excuse me if I have no faith in our medical and fitness people. It is a big risk, both on the re-injure count and match fit count.
Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane - laj - 09-03-2024
(09-03-2024, 08:06 AM)DJC link Wrote:Every team in the competition kicks long bombs to their forwards. When you’ve got two of the best marks in your forward line, you’d be crazy not to kick the ball to their advantage.There's the long kick to position when it is open after quick movement, or the long bomb as a last resort to the forward covered by half the defence.
Remember the Acres mark and goal to beat Melbourne? If Doc hadn’t bombed the ball in we would have lost the game.