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Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn - cookie2 - 04-28-2019
(04-28-2019, 09:37 PM)PaulP link Wrote:Yes, but it's not just him, Krooz, Simmo, Daisy since he came over.
Sure, doesn't help does it? Just not enough hardened winners at the moment. That's what was needed yesterday to get us over the line. Effort was mostly there, nous was lacking against Clarko the old fox and his men.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn - PaulP - 04-28-2019
(04-28-2019, 09:44 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:Sure, doesn't help does it? Just not enough hardened winners at the moment. That's what was needed yesterday to get us over the line. Effort was mostly there, nous was lacking against Clarko the old fox and his men.
Yes, agree cookie.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn - LP - 04-28-2019
(04-28-2019, 09:44 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:Sure, doesn't help does it? Just not enough hardened winners at the moment. That's what was needed yesterday to get us over the line. Effort was mostly there, nous was lacking against Clarko the old fox and his men.
And a bit of luck, it's not every game you lead well then end up with three significant players on the pine!
That takes a toll on any team, and under the current rules it's amplified!
But it is interesting, pre-game a few players looked off colour. When Simmo failed to surface I thought maybe a lurgy was going through the club, because during the Anzac Day ceremony I thought Simmo, Marchbank, Cripps and SoJ all looked off colour with dark rings under their eyes. I said to my son Simmo looked like he'd seen a ghost when he walked the boundary. If that thought has any substance it's probably a learning curve for BB.
On the tagging issue, OMeara had 27 at 1/2-time and it made not much difference to the result. I think tagging is a bit wasted unless you have a tagger that can hurt teams going the other way, and we probably don't have that type. Several of the experts claim tagging is dead under the new rules, because it leaves you short of a free player when you win the ball.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn - madbluboy - 04-28-2019
(04-28-2019, 09:42 PM)PaulP link Wrote:I agree. He's getting to the point where he should spend more time on the pine in-match, or else give him a breather in the F50.
It has to be said, one quarter of vintage Krooz is better than a full game of Cas, Lobbe and Philips.
I agree he was beating McEvoy then Big Boy wore him down until he submitted.
We may as well play the 2 rucks now as it's proven we lose either way. Give Kreuzer a rest and prolong his career and get games into Phillips.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn - LP - 04-28-2019
(04-28-2019, 09:58 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:I agree he was beating McEvoy then Big Boy wore him down until he submitted.
We may as well play the 2 rucks now as it's proven we lose either way. Give Kreuzer a rest and prolong his career and get games into Phillips.
McEvoy didn't wear him down, something was wrong with SpecialK after 1/2-time, he could hardly jump.
Something was clearly wrong, there was a suggestion he tweaked an ankle or strained something kicking that goal, but I didn't see anything. Apparently he was hobbling a bit after that! But to me he looked like he had a virus or some other problem, I worry he might be suffering from that heart issue.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn - PaulP - 04-28-2019
(04-28-2019, 09:58 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:I agree he was beating McEvoy then Big Boy wore him down until he submitted.
We may as well play the 2 rucks now as it's proven we lose either way. Give Kreuzer a rest and prolong his career and get games into Phillips.
I don't mind this idea.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn - LP - 04-28-2019
(04-28-2019, 10:03 PM)PaulP link Wrote:I don't mind this idea.
Casboult wasn't too bad yesterday, he'd be very unlucky to be dropped.
Charlie needs to earn his spot and not be gifted a return.
Newman is going to be a big loss!
Finally, how the hell can it be Jones doesn't get s single free kick despite being blocked and or tripped multiple times yesterday. He had it all over Roughead and Lewis, then all of a sudden he starts being ejected from marking contests and it's play on!
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn - PaulP - 04-28-2019
(04-28-2019, 10:05 PM)LP link Wrote:Casboult wasn't too bad yesterday, he'd be very unlucky to be dropped.
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I agree. He was ok. But I still prefer Krooz plus another ruck. I don't think Philips is as bad away from stoppages and bounces as some make out.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn - DJC - 04-28-2019
(04-28-2019, 10:02 PM)LP link Wrote:McEvoy didn't wear him down, something was wrong with SpecialK after 1/2-time, he could hardly jump.
Something was clearly wrong, there was a suggestion he tweaked an ankle or strained something kicking that goal, but I didn't see anything. Apparently he was hobbling a bit after that! But to me he looked like he had a virus or some other problem, I worry he might be suffering from that heart issue.
Didn’t Kreuzer spend the last quarter on the bench?
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn - jeza - 04-28-2019
This isn't Murphy bashing after a loss. I made comment after the win too that he isn't quite there mentality wise. He's running a lot and doing some good things but there are constant reminders that he's not quite there. Throws possession away cheaply way too often, half pace chase, soft tackle effort, etc.
A few weeks in the 2s may actually be the best thing that ever happened to him if we were brave enough to do it.
He needs something to snap him out of it anyway.